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Even though the media says otherwise, I think people want the bigger trucks. It seems the four door quad cabs are replacing the old school family sedan. They are very practical vehicles and have plenty of room for a family or group of friends going on a fishing or camping trip.
Whenever I see an older pick-up from the early 90's or before, it is mostly a long bed regular cab. Now most are short bed with 4 doors. The extra cab configuration with extra seat adds weight. So do all the emissions and safety equipment. It looks like the frames are beefier as well but the actual "skin" feels considerably thinner.
And those big headlights? Well my 07 ram lights up the road in front of me considerably better then my old 78/79 broncos did. And I know with the size of the markers I'm seen a lot better as well, which is just as important.
Even with the extra size, they are getting better MPG's as well then the older trucks.
What gets me is I can no longer buy a cheap pickup with a manual transmission. I bought my last pickup for 14,000 dollars and now I don't see any for under 20K. I don't need all the extras. I want a vehicle with a box and manual...... can't get it.
... Even with the extra size, they are getting better MPG's as well then the older trucks.
That may be true with the gas engines, I don't know, but I do know that the newer diesels don't do nearly as well as the older ones -- government regs being the cause.
I know that SOME of the newer 1/2 ton pickups, the "heavy duty" or "camper package" ones will carry nearly as much as the 3/4 tons of a decade or so ago, and the new 3/4 ton Ford and GM pickups will carry about as much as their 1 ton counterparts of a decade ago. And that the 1 ton SRW and duallies both have larger payloads.
I don't know why the manufacturers are doing this. I do know that campers are getting bigger, but if they're designing these pickups for campers they're missing the mark big time.
Your not going to find any manual transmissions in the light truck segment anymore. Don't blame the automakers, look to the dimwits that have lived off of the taxpayers in DC for that answer. The auto maker cannot warranty emissions at the tailpipe if the driver is in control of the engine speed, not to be confused with vehicle speed. With an auto transmission, the PCM can control emissions and engine speed. That's why you can't have one. But all of the makers sell a base model truck. But I'd agree they have become bloated pigs and near worthless as a TRUCK.
What gets me is I can no longer buy a cheap pickup with a manual transmission. I bought my last pickup for 14,000 dollars and now I don't see any for under 20K. I don't need all the extras. I want a vehicle with a box and manual...... can't get it.
on a side note, I think the quad cab, pickup truck is the only way to go for the average family. Yes if you need a work truck no, but you can tow the boat, fit big things in the bed for projects at the house(bags of mulch, wood, etc..) and still fit the kids, and their bikes to go somewhere.
What gets me is I can no longer buy a cheap pickup with a manual transmission. I bought my last pickup for 14,000 dollars and now I don't see any for under 20K. I don't need all the extras. I want a vehicle with a box and manual...... can't get it.
No interest unless I had a need. Annoying to drive compared to a regular car.
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