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I wouldn't drop that kind of money on any vehicle. I'm not a brand snob - I've driven Hyundai, Mitsubishi, even had a Geo Metro years back. Currently drive a late model Nissan and a Jeep that is nearly 20 years old. I don't understand, and never have, the penchant for dropping big dollars on name-brand cars. Aren't we supposed to grow past that brand insecurity as we leave our teenage years behind?
That said, I understand that some people truly have a passion for cars. If they have the $, more power to them I have a passion for good coffee. I don't mind dropping the dollars, every day, for a really great espresso.
I'm referring more to people who drive Acura/BMW/Mercedes because it supposedly highlights how 'rich' and discriminating they are.
I'd rather put that extra $$ I save by driving crap on wheels into the bank. Maybe one day I'll actually BE rich <laughing>
That's a funny question. I wouldn't drop $40 not $40k but $40 on a Kia or Hyundai. My dad has ben a mechanic for over 40 years and calls them both throw away cars. When it needs repairs, you throw it away and buy something else because they such cheap pieces of crap. You get what you pay for!
Comparing a Kia to a BMW is like comparing oranges to concrete. The ONLY thing they have in common is that their name is 3 letters long.
Maybe 20 years ago.. we're talking 2014. How many of the current $35k-$ 50K newer Kia/Hyundias has dad worked on?
I wouldn't drop that kind of money on any vehicle. I'm not a brand snob - I've driven Hyundai, Mitsubishi, even had a Geo Metro years back. Currently drive a late model Nissan and a Jeep that is nearly 20 years old. I don't understand, and never have, the penchant for dropping big dollars on name-brand cars. Aren't we supposed to grow past that brand insecurity as we leave our teenage years behind?
That said, I understand that some people truly have a passion for cars. If they have the $, more power to them I have a passion for good coffee. I don't mind dropping the dollars, every day, for a really great espresso.
I'm referring more to people who drive Acura/BMW/Mercedes because it supposedly highlights how 'rich' and discriminating they are.
I'd rather put that extra $$ I save by driving crap on wheels into the bank. Maybe one day I'll actually BE rich <laughing>
No all of us want to drive older vehicles. With the number of miles I drive every year, I need a very reliable vehicle. I drive many long trips throughout the year and can't be broken down every 100 miles. I just racked up over a thousand miles in 4 days on a work trip. I have another 400 mile trip this weekend. I can't afford to be broken down in the middle of some mountains and not show up for work.
Some of us know a thing or two about cars and just won't buy certain brands. I work hard for my money and don't want to waste it on some piece of junk.
I know plenty of people who drive BMW's who don't drive them because they are rich or discriminating. My brother races his BMW. He's raced them for years.
Don't be a hater because you buy used vehicles and others don't. We all have our reasons for our purchases. Some don't have the money for monthly payments. Some only want to pay cash. Some need a pickup for work or camping or boating. Some need a bicycle. Some need a van for work and play. Whatever your needs, there's a vehicle at your price out there.
That's a funny question. I wouldn't drop $40 not $40k but $40 on a Kia or Hyundai. My dad has ben a mechanic for over 40 years and calls them both throw away cars. When it needs repairs, you throw it away and buy something else because they such cheap pieces of crap. You get what you pay for!
Comparing a Kia to a BMW is like comparing oranges to concrete. The ONLY thing they have in common is that their name is 3 letters long.
Back in the 80's and 90's I wouldn't have touched a Hyundai either, but times change and companies improve their products. They don't even have the same engineers and designers they had back then, and they've gotten pretty serious about firing people that aren't devoted to improving quality. So far my 2012 Sonata is comparable to other cars in its class like the Camry or Altima.
This is a wide spread for price range. $35K really is not that much money these days for some new cars either as most loaded models of common brand midsize sedans hit that amount.
I would not categorically rule out paying that kind of money for a new Hyundai or Kia, just based on brand name.
If I felt the Hyundai or Kia was a good value at that price, based on it's class and competition, I would consider buying it.
I do think that as those brands get into RWD luxury, they really could use a new luxury brand to sell them under too, as brand reputation could hurt their success or reputation (which this thread basically proves).
Back in the 80's and 90's I wouldn't have touched a Hyundai either, but times change and companies improve their products. They don't even have the same engineers and designers they had back then, and they've gotten pretty serious about firing people that aren't devoted to improving quality. So far my 2012 Sonata is comparable to other cars in its class like the Camry or Altima.
Great for you that you like your Sonata. I wouldn't take one even if it was free. To say that a Sonata is comparable to a Camry is just funny. Pretty sure the sales numbers disagree. This here says a lot:
Great for you that you like your Sonata. I wouldn't take one even if it was free. To say that a Sonata is comparable to a Camry is just funny. Pretty sure the sales numbers disagree. This here says a lot:
The sales numbers don't tell you anything about quality (hence the critically acclaimed newly released 2014 Mazda 3 not selling well compared to the dated Corolla/Civic). I have a 2011 Hyundai Genesis Coupe, a 2007 BMW 530i and now a 2009 Ford Fusion that replaced my wifes 2002 Honda Accord. The BMW has been the least reliable of them all (coolant leaks, sunroof recalibration, weird ignition lock issues, etc). I intended to drive the BMW daily and use the Genesis Coupe as a weekend car but I prefer to drive the Genesis far more and the BMW will likely get the boot soon.
Given my experience with the BMW I'm certainly not surprised more and more people are buying the Genesis sedan as a more reliable alternative particularly for anyone who intends to drive the car after the warranty is gone.
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Great for you that you like your Sonata. I wouldn't take one even if it was free. To say that a Sonata is comparable to a Camry is just funny. Pretty sure the sales numbers disagree. This here says a lot:
Please tell us all the major differences between a Camry and a Sonata? My wife drives a '11 Sonata (I almost drive it more then she does) and we rented a '14 Camry this fall, both have the 4 cylinder, there wasn't any major differences between the two. Both are plain and boring. We've had zero problems in 40k other then a factory control arm recall. It's not like one of these boring class sedans is light years better then the others.
Great for you that you like your Sonata. I wouldn't take one even if it was free. To say that a Sonata is comparable to a Camry is just funny. Pretty sure the sales numbers disagree. This here says a lot:
They certainly are comparble cars. Sales # s have nothing to do with the subject at hand. Its no secret that Toyota would kill to be in the middle of the styling trend that Hyundai is in right now. One of their main goals now has been to shed their "no much for looks, great applliance image". Akio himself is on a big push for this evidenced by the recent hires. The Avalon and Corolla were supposed to be the first taste of this and the upcoming Supra/FT1 is supposed to be the cherry on top.
The 14.5 Camry ever so slight restyle was a stop gap until a thoroughly redone Camry can get to market which will be aimed directly at the Hyundai like styling trend. Toyota admits at what you deny. I know this from working in R&D type functions myself for both companies.
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I have a passion for good coffee. I don't mind dropping the dollars, every day, for a really great espresso. 