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Old 04-19-2021, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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Really just depends. Figure an efficient EV is about .3-ish kwh/ mile. 30 kwh for 100 miles.
Fuel efficient car is 50 mpg, 2 gallons of gas.
Electricity prices here are 18 cents for off-peak here, call it 60 cents. Gasoline is about 3.60 right now here. Call it $7.

Definitely cheaper. Also less suck than a Prius type vehicle that gets 50 MPG. E.g. the Model 3 or Mach-E are pretty decent drives whereas the Prius or Ioniq are, well, what they are.
18 cents?

I pay 8.1 cents.
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Old 04-19-2021, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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18 cents?

I pay 8.1 cents.
That's not a bad deal. The average cost for electricity in Alaska is 23 cents x kWh. A relatively small home, around 1,700 square-foot living space averages $200.00 to $300.00 per month. I don't have an EV, but during the winter months, if colder than 10 degrees F, I have to plug them to an electrical outlet for two hours before starting the motor with the remote. The motor has a block heater, oil pan heater, and a battery blanket. An electric timer controls the amount of time needed to slightly warm the battery and motor before I start it.

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Old 04-20-2021, 03:51 PM
 
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18 cents?

I pay 8.1 cents.
There is a huge variation in the prices Americans pay for electricity

Average retail price (cents/kWh)
Alabama 9.83 cents
Florida 10.44 cents

California 16.89 cents
Alaska 20.22 cents
Hawaii 28.72 cents

Just be glad you don't live in Australia. Most electricity retailers charging between 25 and 40 cents per kWh, depending on your state and electricity tariff.
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Old 04-20-2021, 05:57 PM
 
Location: 0.83 Atmospheres
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I pay 0.9699 per kWh. My Model 3 battery is 79 kWh capacity and gets about 300 miles at full charge. So, 300 miles costs about $7.67. Of you want to factor in some power loss due to cold weather in the winter, call it 250 mile capacity. Still a lot cheaper than filling up the gas tank on my Land Cruiser.
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Old 04-20-2021, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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There is a huge variation in the prices Americans pay for electricity

Average retail price (cents/kWh)
Alabama 9.83 cents
Florida 10.44 cents

California 16.89 cents
Alaska 20.22 cents
Hawaii 28.72 cents

Just be glad you don't live in Australia. Most electricity retailers charging between 25 and 40 cents per kWh, depending on your state and electricity tariff.
That's about right. I get a 1.7 cent discount at night for owning a plug-in vehicle, and that brings it down to the 8.1 cents I mentioned.
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Old 04-21-2021, 12:34 AM
 
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I pay 0.9699 per kWh. My Model 3 battery is 79 kWh capacity and gets about 300 miles at full charge. So, 300 miles costs about $7.67. Of you want to factor in some power loss due to cold weather in the winter, call it 250 mile capacity. Still a lot cheaper than filling up the gas tank on my Land Cruiser.
You mean you pay 9.699 cents per kWh, or you pay $0.09699 per kWh. You have a decimal point out of place.

The average for the US is 10.54 cents per kWh.

Other states have the ability to adopt California’s standards through Section 177 of the Clean Air Act, hence why they are often called the Section 177 states. Currently there are nine states that have adopted California’s ZEV regulations (as well as low-emission vehicle regulations): Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Oregon, Rhode Island and Vermont. Together with California, these states represent nearly 30 percent of new car sales in the United States.

Most of the Section 177 states have more expensive electricity prices (Oregon has cheap hydroelectric generation abilities so it is the exception)

Average price of residential electricity in cents per kWh
  1. 7.71 Louisiana
  2. 7.86 Oklahoma
  3. 7.89 Idaho
  4. 8.04 Washington
  5. 8.10 Wyoming
  6. 8.22 Arkansas
  7. 8.24 Utah
  8. 8.49 West Virginia
  9. 8.60 Texas
  10. 8.61 Kentucky
  11. 8.78 Nevada
  12. 8.81 Oregon
  13. 8.85 North Dakota
  14. 8.99 New Mexico
  15. 9.02 Montana
  16. 9.08 Iowa
  17. 9.08 Nebraska
  18. 9.28 Mississippi
  19. 9.45 North Carolina
  20. 9.52 Virginia
  21. 9.56 Illinois
  22. 9.58 Ohio
  23. 9.68 Missouri
  24. 9.69 Tennessee
  25. 9.81 Pennsylvania
  26. 9.83 Alabama
  27. 9.86 Georgia
  28. 9.91 Indiana
  29. 9.96 South Dakota
  30. 10.02 South Carolina
  31. 10.17 Colorado
  32. 10.26 Kansas
  33. 10.33 Minnesota
  34. 10.44 Florida
  35. 10.52 Arizona
  36. 10.52 Delaware
  37. 10.54 US average
  38. 10.66 Wisconsin
  39. 11.24 Maryland
  40. 11.56 Michigan
  41. 12.27 District of Columbia
  42. 13.42 New Jersey
  43. 14.04 Maine
  44. 14.34 New York
  45. 15.36 Vermont
  46. 16.89 California
  47. 17.15 New Hampshire
  48. 18.40 Massachusetts
  49. 18.49 Rhode Island
  50. 18.66 Connecticut
  51. 20.22 Alaska
  52. 28.72 Hawaii
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Old 04-21-2021, 01:19 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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18 cents?

I pay 8.1 cents.
It differs considerably - I charge in 2 different states with wildly different rates and changes with time of use (TOU).

In SD CA -
Average electricity cost is $0.26 but varies between $0.56 and $0.09/kw - most charging done at $0.09 rate. A nominal charge is 50 kw or about $4.50 that will get about 200 miles, a gas equivalent would get about 30 mpg or about 6.7 gallons at $3.50 gal or about $23.50, 5x more for gas.

In LV NV -
My electricity cost is $0.044/kw all the time under a contract that I have - so 50 kw would be $2.20. Gas is about $2.80/gal for 6.7 gal or about $18.80, or over 8.5x more for gas.

So in my case both higher and lower depending on location but both are much lower than gas vehicle
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Old 04-21-2021, 02:51 AM
 
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There is a huge variation in the prices Americans pay for electricity

Average retail price (cents/kWh)
Alabama 9.83 cents
Florida 10.44 cents

California 16.89 cents
Alaska 20.22 cents
Hawaii 28.72 cents

Just be glad you don't live in Australia. Most electricity retailers charging between 25 and 40 cents per kWh, depending on your state and electricity tariff.
My Massachusetts electric bill. $44.00. 166 kWh. 26.5 cents per kWh. The gas pipeline monopoly and electric company monopoly feeding at the trough.
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Old 04-21-2021, 03:25 AM
 
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My Massachusetts electric bill. $44.00. 166 kWh. 26.5 cents per kWh. The gas pipeline monopoly and electric company monopoly feeding at the trough.
Yep. Those nasty utility commissions. Do as Texas has done. Open the markets for lower rates.

"Karen Knox, a special education teacher in Bedford, was among them. She lost power during the crisis but still owes some $7,000 to Griddy, an electricity provider located in Houston." LINK

"— topping $17,000 for a man Dallas television station WFAA spoke to —"

Sometimes the electric free market goes haywire.

But back to the OP question. In dollars. How much does one pay per month for a plug in EV ?

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Old 04-21-2021, 05:13 AM
 
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I can save enough on gas in a years time to buy a 21mm Ethos at the prices of say around $3.50 for prem. It was around 80 per month for gas for me to drive 50 miles per week before the prices really went up since this year.
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