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Old 03-24-2015, 10:21 PM
 
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I'm sorry, but I've had enough. I was driving in a "school zone" at 4:28 PM. I was going the speed of traffic, I was going on a major street in my city, there was no "pedestrians" around, and it was, I repeat, 4:28 PM. School was long, long over. But, ok, if the speed limit was 20 and I was going 45, then I would understand getting a ticket, but no, I was going 27 miles per hour at 4:28 PM with no pedestrians on a major road in my city when school was almost 1:30 hours out of session and I get slapped with a speed limit for speeding in a "school zone". From research, apparently, DURING SCHOOL HOURS, going at 26 is a ticket. So, I was one mph above that an hour and a half after school ended, going the speed of traffic. This all makes sense. While my city has one of the highest murder rates in the country, with gangs roaming the city untouched, I am slapped with a ticket for this.

Good job, police department. You "got" me!
Obviously 26 or 27 in a 25 zone especially when moving with the flow of traffic, is absurd, but.. Were you the last one in line? How did they get you and not the others?

p.s. what city do you live in that has the highest murder rates? Three that come to mind are DC, Detroit, and Atlanta.

p.s.s. Fight this ticket and you will win. No way the judge will fine you for 2 miles over the speed limit, especially when going with the flow of traffic.

p.s.s.s. It is very possible you were going 5-10 miles over but the cop was nice and lowered it.
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Old 03-25-2015, 12:27 AM
 
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Obviously 26 or 27 in a 25 zone especially when moving with the flow of traffic, is absurd, but.. Were you the last one in line? How did they get you and not the others?

p.s. what city do you live in that has the highest murder rates? Three that come to mind are DC, Detroit, and Atlanta.

p.s.s. Fight this ticket and you will win. No way the judge will fine you for 2 miles over the speed limit, especially when going with the flow of traffic.

p.s.s.s. It is very possible you were going 5-10 miles over but the cop was nice and lowered it.
schools zone speed limit 20 mph, and it was a photo ticket.
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Old 03-25-2015, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Obviously 26 or 27 in a 25 zone especially when moving with the flow of traffic, is absurd, but.. Were you the last one in line? How did they get you and not the others?

p.s. what city do you live in that has the highest murder rates? Three that come to mind are DC, Detroit, and Atlanta.

p.s.s. Fight this ticket and you will win. No way the judge will fine you for 2 miles over the speed limit, especially when going with the flow of traffic.

p.s.s.s. It is very possible you were going 5-10 miles over but the cop was nice and lowered it.
It was 27 in a 20, 7 miles or 35% over the limit . It was a camera ticket - the OP doesn't know that they were singled out and that every other vehicle that violated the law there didn't get a ticket, in fact, they all likely did.
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Old 03-25-2015, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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OP: assuming that the school zone speed restrictions were still in effect (many zones are in place for a little while after school ends to take into account students remaining behind for after school activities, etc.), you broke the law, got caught, and now have to pay the consequences. Get over it.
They were. Many people have given this response to the OP on this thread, but it's apparently the wrong response per the OP.
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Old 03-25-2015, 08:52 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I can't believe this thread, which jumped the tracks 3 days ago, is still going. It's been a train wreck since about the 10th post.
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Old 03-25-2015, 02:37 PM
 
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They were. Many people have given this response to the OP on this thread, but it's apparently the wrong response per the OP.
Sure, I "broke" the law here, but I set up by an obvious speed trap and intend to fight it in the court of law. Just because its the "law" doesn't make it untouchable...
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Old 03-25-2015, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Sure, I "broke" the law here, but I set up by an obvious speed trap and intend to fight it in the court of law. Just because its the "law" doesn't make it untouchable...
Okay, you may be confusing two things here.

Going to court is to prove that you didn't do what you were ticketed for doing.

Changing the law takes place in a different venue. What that is, be it city or county or state, depends on the state you're in and how their laws are changed. But the judge doesn't get to change the law because someone shows up and says, yes, I did it, but it's not fair and I don't like the law!

Legislative and judicial (and executive) branches have different powers and responsibilities on state as well as federal levels, for a reason - that pesky checks and balances thing.

Changing the signs is most likely yet a different venue.
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Old 03-25-2015, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Okay, you may be confusing two things here.

Going to court is to prove that you didn't do what you were ticketed for doing.

Changing the law takes place in a different venue. What that is, be it city or county or state, depends on the state you're in and how their laws are changed. But the judge doesn't get to change the law because someone shows up and says, yes, I did it, but it's not fair and I don't like the law!

Legislative and judicial (and executive) branches have different powers and responsibilities on state as well as federal levels, for a reason - that pesky checks and balances thing.

Changing the signs is most likely yet a different venue.
He doesn't have to prove that he didn't do what he was ticketed for doing. There's such a thing as an affirmative defense, in essence saying "I did what I have been accused of but I still should not be found guilty/liable because x, y, and/or z."

I realize you believe that only drivers make mistakes, but sometimes governments make mistakes too. If he and enough others get their tickets thrown out because the city did not provide adequate notice of what rule will be enforced where and/or when, then the signs will get changed or the school zone will be re-engineered (as it should be if they're actually concerned for the safety of the children).
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Old 03-25-2015, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I'm sorry, but I've had enough. I was driving in a "school zone" at 4:28 PM. I was going the speed of traffic, I was going on a major street in my city, there was no "pedestrians" around, and it was, I repeat, 4:28 PM. School was long, long over. But, ok, if the speed limit was 20 and I was going 45, then I would understand getting a ticket, but no, I was going 27 miles per hour at 4:28 PM with no pedestrians on a major road in my city when school was almost 1:30 hours out of session and I get slapped with a speed limit for speeding in a "school zone". From research, apparently, DURING SCHOOL HOURS, going at 26 is a ticket. So, I was one mph above that an hour and a half after school ended, going the speed of traffic. This all makes sense. While my city has one of the highest murder rates in the country, with gangs roaming the city untouched, I am slapped with a ticket for this.

Good job, police department. You "got" me!
"Law enforcement" is primarily a revenue generation function in some places. It's much easier go squeeze money out of traffic tickets than to actually arrest and punish criminals. That actually takes effort and costs money.
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Old 03-26-2015, 12:32 AM
 
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That's why I jam their crap. Screw them. They're America's biggest gang.
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