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Old 04-19-2015, 01:36 PM
 
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Right on Red is only a subset of circumstances where the rule should apply. It should always be permissible to proceed, after a complete stop, when your path does not cross a traffic lane. That would even include a left turn from a one-way street onto another one-way street, since it does not cross a traffic lane.

It makes no sense to have to wait, when there is no traffic crossing your path, and the roadway you are entering is visible and clear.
In the State of Texas, it is legal to turn left from a one-way street, after stop, onto another one-way street. See Texas Transportation Code Section 544.007.

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There is a common violation that is even worse, and I've never seen the police enforce it. When you are making a turn you are required to turn into the nearest lane of the direction your are going, and then signal and change lanes if you want to. A lot of people turn left into a four-lane street, and drive straight into the curb lane, which is illegal. Or turn right and go straight into the passing lane, also illegal. You have to turn into and proceed in the nearest applicable lane.
In the State of Texas, a right turn should be into the right lane of the intersection street, but a left turn can be into any lane of the intersecting street, unless pavement marking and signage indicate otherwise. See Texas Transportation Code Section 545.101.
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Old 04-19-2015, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Is it time to outlaw the "Right Turn On Red..."
No.



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Right on Red is only a subset of circumstances where the rule should apply. It should always be permissible to proceed, after a complete stop, when your path does not cross a traffic lane. That would even include a left turn from a one-way street onto another one-way street, since it does not cross a traffic lane. . .
Not sure what the law is in your neck of the woods, but in the three states I've lived (IL, WI, PA), left turn on red from a one-way onto another one-way is legal provided there is no signage to the contrary.
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Old 04-19-2015, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I find Right turn on Red to be a real time saver if used correctly. I tend to slow down a lot and then turn right if there is no traffic. The only time this is tricky is when there is left turning traffic coming at you from the other side of the street you are turning from.
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Old 04-19-2015, 02:42 PM
 
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Enforce what we already have. That would mitigate the issue.
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Old 04-19-2015, 03:21 PM
 
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right on red has alway been a problem to those that are talking on the phone at the same time, some people are just to stupid to figure right on red, these are the same people that refuse the four way stop deal, they just don't understand, they can't handle it
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Old 04-19-2015, 03:21 PM
 
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Just because a few people fail to stop, you want to punish all of us by getting rid of Right On Red? Real nice.
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Old 04-19-2015, 03:30 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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Is it time to outlaw the "Right Turn On Red... AFTER STOP?
Nope. But there are a LOT of corners that are busier than they used to be
and THESE probably warrant extra control... maybe a red arrow/sensor set up.

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It seems more and more drivers are forgetting the "AFTER STOP" portion of the law.
This is about (lack of) enforcement.

Same as with turn signals, yielding, lane hogging, etc...
too few of these offenders get ticketed.
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Old 04-19-2015, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Montreal
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By the way, Quebec does not permit right on red, in case you are ever visiting there.
Actually, that only applies to the island of Montreal. The rest of Quebec permits right on red. Montreal and New York City are the only two jurisdictions in North America banning right on red. Montrealers would agree that we can't be trusted with it
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Old 04-19-2015, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Some folks make a "California stop" and really get steamed if they get a ticket.
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Old 04-19-2015, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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In PA if you don’t see a No Turn on Red then you can turn on red. However, we also have Wait for Green. Never sure what to do.
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