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Old 05-27-2016, 09:01 PM
 
Location: In the Wild Wild West
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Old 05-27-2016, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Florida
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WHAT?????? You mean a used car dealer is crooked ???? If you can't trust them, who can you trust ?

Certainly not Washington.
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Old 05-27-2016, 10:11 PM
 
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Fraud will negate "as is, where is" disclaimer every time.

Mick
Agreed, but good luck proving fraud in this case.
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Old 05-27-2016, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Wayne,NJ
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WHAT?????? You mean a used car dealer is crooked ???? If you can't trust them, who can you trust ?
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Certainly not Washington.
Or lawyers, or a lot of doctors I've come across, or managers when the assure you, you'll be able to leave early for your cousin's wedding.
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Old 05-27-2016, 11:06 PM
 
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This is pretty much par for the course with used up euro cars on buy here pay here car lots esp at this price point. I get this vibe after watching that news video that no matter what this car was a bad mistake.
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Old 05-28-2016, 02:22 AM
 
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While test driving, it is good to connect an OBD reader to detect any codes, or take it to a mechanic and have it completely checked out. Caution if the dealer says they already checked everything out and present a checklist. That is to deter you from having it inspected.
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Old 05-28-2016, 05:12 AM
 
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Refunding this guy's money s the least of the dealer's problems. Fending off unwanted affection in jail may be a bit more pressing.
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Old 05-28-2016, 05:13 AM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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Only thing I want to know is whether it was German duct tape.
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Old 05-28-2016, 05:38 AM
 
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The question is : who put the tape there? Was it the dealer or the previous owner, and how do you prove it?
It could even be worser.
Most cars on used car lots come from dealer only used car auctions.
Where do those cars originally come from?
Other dealers.
So who actually put the electrical tape on the dash?
So who put the tape on? The first owner? The last owner? The trade-in dealer? The auction purchase dealer?

$18,000 for an engine?
If this is true then all of those buying a used German car might think again.

Is it the responsibility of all used car dealers to look closely at dash to see if there is any tape anywhere?
Are all used car dealers responsible to connect to OBDII to check for problems? Is that written in law someplace?
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Old 05-28-2016, 06:31 AM
 
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So who held the gun to the head of the buyer and prevented him from having an independent
technician perform a pre-purchase inspection?

MOST, (but not all) faults that trigger a check engine light will not lead to total engine failure.

And, we don't know who put the tape over the light, but had the car been inspected by the dealer they should have noticed the light did not illuminate with key on, engine off bulb check.

Plenty of blame to go around.

Don in Austin
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