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In his crash report, Vukovich stated that Scaglione's car was traveling east near mile marker 160, about 5 p.m. when it hit a guardrail "off the right side of the roadway. It then crossed over the eastbound lanes and hit the concrete median."
After that, the Tesla Model X rolled onto its roof and came to rest in the middle eastbound lane. A 2013 Infiniti G37 driven in the westbound lane by Thomas Hess of West Chester, Pa., was struck by debris from the Scaglione car, but neither he nor his passenger was hurt.
Vukovich said he likely will cite Scaglione after he completes his investigation, but he declined to specify the charge.
Tesla says that before Autopilot can be used, drivers have to acknowledge that the system is an "assist feature" that requires a driver to keep both hands on the wheel at all times. Drivers are told they need to "maintain control and responsibility for your vehicle" while using the system, and they have to be prepared to take over at any time.
Last month at a conference in Novi, NHTSA chief Mark Rosekind argued that technology like Autopilot should be twice as safe as the manual systems they replace.
The other risk illustrated in the Florida crash is the tension between what automakers call automated driver assist features, such as emergency braking, lane departure alert and adaptive cruise control, and a more daring level of autonomy that is touted as allowing occupants to text, email, watch movies and otherwise disengage from driving.
i think i'm going to hang out in palo alto and hope a driverless car hits me, i could use the cash lol
07-05-2016, 11:37 PM
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They should call it "Tesla driver assist" rather than "Tesla autopilot"... because that's what it is.
Kinda like how autopilot in planes and boats is meant to assist the operator?
Tesla has been abundantly clear the autopilot does not mean you climb into the car and sleep, watch videos, or whatever until you get to your destination.
Inattentive drivers are simply using it as an excuse for why they weren't paying attention, just like people use cruise control as an excuse for why they smashed into something.
Kinda like how autopilot in planes and boats is meant to assist the operator?
Tesla has been abundantly clear the autopilot does not mean you climb into the car and sleep, watch videos, or whatever until you get to your destination.
Inattentive drivers are simply using it as an excuse for why they weren't paying attention, just like people use cruise control as an excuse for why they smashed into something.
I know they have... and too many people have or will use it as an excuse to do exactly what it isn't intended for... sleeping and watching videos until you get to your destination... just as you said.
Oh... autopilot in planes vs Tesla's autopilot isn't even remotely close to being the same thing. Poor comparison.
Planes basically fly themselves... punch in a few coordinates and you can get from NY to Tokyo with a pilot who is asleep.
Tesla has been abundantly clear the autopilot does not mean you climb into the car and sleep, watch videos, or whatever until you get to your destination.
Inattentive drivers are simply using it as an excuse for why they weren't paying attention, just like people use cruise control as an excuse for why they smashed into something.
Isn't that a little disingenuous?
Notice for how much of the video the driver isn't touching the wheel:
There are dozens more videos just like this. Some are worse. People reading books, watching movies, etc.
They are deliberately inattentive, to say the least.
I believe Musk encourages a culture of recklessness, no matter what Tesla's official disclaimers might say. It's not called Autopilot because they couldn't think of another name.
In his crash report, Vukovich stated that Scaglione's car was traveling east near mile marker 160, about 5 p.m. when it hit a guardrail "off the right side of the roadway. It then crossed over the eastbound lanes and hit the concrete median."
After that, the Tesla Model X rolled onto its roof and came to rest in the middle eastbound lane. A 2013 Infiniti G37 driven in the westbound lane by Thomas Hess of West Chester, Pa., was struck by debris from the Scaglione car, but neither he nor his passenger was hurt.
Vukovich said he likely will cite Scaglione after he completes his investigation, but he declined to specify the charge.
Tesla says that before Autopilot can be used, drivers have to acknowledge that the system is an "assist feature" that requires a driver to keep both hands on the wheel at all times. Drivers are told they need to "maintain control and responsibility for your vehicle" while using the system, and they have to be prepared to take over at any time.
Last month at a conference in Novi, NHTSA chief Mark Rosekind argued that technology like Autopilot should be twice as safe as the manual systems they replace.
The other risk illustrated in the Florida crash is the tension between what automakers call automated driver assist features, such as emergency braking, lane departure alert and adaptive cruise control, and a more daring level of autonomy that is touted as allowing occupants to text, email, watch movies and otherwise disengage from driving.
Tesla: The New Ford Pinto. That’s now two serious wrecks in 130 million miles. Their safety record is plummeting. I’m sensing a recall coming.
There are dozens more videos just like this. Some are worse. People reading books, watching movies, etc.
They are deliberately inattentive, to say the least.
I believe Musk encourages a culture of recklessness, no matter what Tesla's official disclaimers might say. It's not called Autopilot because they couldn't think of another name.
The PA Turnpike is one the oldest highways if not the oldest highway in the country depending on who you want to argue with about it. It's built through the terrain instead of around it like most modern highways, it's extremely flat and straight in many areas but can have sharper corners than you would expect on a highway. Banking on those corners can be substantial for a highway. Cars traveling 90+ is common. There is two downsides to it. The median is concrete barrier for most of it and many sections are going to have little to no apron on the right side, there is not whole lot of room for error
It's amazing that people are becoming test dummys for Tesla. They put out the autopilot feature and people are helping tesla test the system out with their lives.
Even for someone like me who is more savvy with technology than majority of the people I wouldn't trust Autopilot yet. There are too many situations unaccounted for that a software and sensors would not anticipate or make the best judgement.
For instance, yesterday I was changing lanes on a 2 lane road and a big truck was in front obstructing my view of the front. As I changed lanes, I carefully peeked over to see if the road was clear. Luckily I was going slowly, the minute I changed into the lane there was a slow car hidden on that lane that I couldn't see because the truck was in the way.
A computer program would need to account for that and process in real time what to do at that moment. If it could not see the other car it could cause an accident.
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