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Old 10-12-2018, 01:23 PM
 
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I saw a wreck today, a 76 celica and 2017/18 ford escape had words, the front end of the escape smashed like an accordion with the right tire taking a nap beside the car the celica ? the right bumper bent down a few inches and the headlight popped out and smashed on the ground.



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new escape will need thousands in repairs.



Celica will need 40 bucks worth of puddy and a new headlight(and most likely the wire to the headlight replaced) . he had the bumper mostly straightened out before the police even got there(so he could drive it).


Here in Texas you see these accidents from time to time since many people like restoring older cars as a hobby. and usually the older car is the one able to drive away.



These people were going around 35mpr, a good car should not be undriveable after a wreck at such slow speeds.
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Old 10-12-2018, 01:34 PM
 
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I saw a wreck today, a 76 celica and 2017/18 ford escape had words, the front end of the escape smashed like an accordion with the right tire taking a nap beside the car the celica ? the right bumper bent down a few inches and the headlight popped out and smashed on the ground.



Score:

new escape will need thousands in repairs.



Celica will need 40 bucks worth of puddy and a new headlight(and most likely the wire to the headlight replaced) . he had the bumper mostly straightened out before the police even got there(so he could drive it).


Here in Texas you see these accidents from time to time since many people like restoring older cars as a hobby. and usually the older car is the one able to drive away.



These people were going around 35mpr, a good car should not be undriveable after a wreck at such slow speeds.
Nope, they are not B.S. They are scientifically accurate. The reason they might seem more damaged is because they are designed to absorb the impact in the crumple zone vs the forces being transferred to the occupants. Older cars were death traps compared to today's vehicles.

Here's a crash test between a 1959 malibu vs a 2009 malibu. No comparison. Most older cars even lacked proper head restraints so you'd have a massive whiplash injury even from a slow speed impact.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPF4fBGNK0U
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Old 10-12-2018, 01:35 PM
 
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They are designed to keep the people in the car safe, not prevent damage to the car.
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Old 10-12-2018, 01:38 PM
 
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As others already pointed out yes, an old car might survive an accident better. Would you rather have your car or your child survive an accident? Cars are infinitely safer today than even 20 years ago.
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Old 10-12-2018, 01:44 PM
 
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Not BS at all.

The designs are to keep occupants safe, not preserve the car. WHile that escape has more outward damage, those occupants will be far more safe in it than in the celica.

Also, you have no idea the extent of damage on the celica, it could have subframe damage, hidden damage not shown.

Plus at a high speed crash, the results will be much different.

I am amazed, but not surprised, how people still to this day do not understand these safety concepts, and think a car being sturdy somehow is safer for occupants than one that has designed crumbled zones to absorb the energy, it is like physics class went right over their head.
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Old 10-12-2018, 02:04 PM
 
Location: WA
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The crash ratings do a great job of showing how the car will do in a crash test. A crash in the street may not be similar.
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Old 10-12-2018, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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The designs are to keep occupants safe, not preserve the car.
This. Cars used to be designed to withstand minor to moderate accidents... at the expense of passenger protection. Choose one.
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Old 10-12-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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The crash ratings do a great job of showing how the car will do in a crash test. A crash in the street may not be similar.

Exactly most accidents I've see first hand between old and new look way different(our roads suck), and I'm talking about what used to be called fender bender's.
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Old 10-12-2018, 02:57 PM
 
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They're built to crumple for those more serious wrecks to absorb a lot of the energy. Side effect is higher repair bills for more minor crashes. Case like this the crumple zone effectively protected both drivers, but the newer car is footing the bill for it.
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Old 10-12-2018, 03:14 PM
 
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Additionally, the effect of the crash on the occupants may not show up until the next day or the following day.

The driver of the Celica may seemed okay after the accident but I would not be surprised if he wakes up a little stiff or achy tomorrow or the next day.
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