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Old 04-04-2019, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I'm not commenting specifically on the new RAV4 because I have yet to drive one but I take whatever CR says with a grain of salt aside from their long term reliability ratings which seem decent.

Yeah, they throughly test many vehicles for comparision but it's still just a bunch of opinions from people whose lives and priorities may be vastly different from any one specific buyer.

Many of the vehicles they don't score highly go on to have some of the highest consumer satisfaction ratings.

I'm alot more interested in what people who actually own vehicle long term have to say than a bunch of reviewers who each might drive something MAYBE 1k and then combine their scores and personal bias.
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Old 04-04-2019, 11:20 PM
 
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I did the opposite. Had a 2012 Tiguan, was nothing but a money-pit. Warranty ran out at 36000.

At 39000 had a fuel pump go out - $800 to fix.

At 75000 had a wheel bearing go out - $400 to fix.
At 95000 had coil packs go out - $450 to fix plus spark plugs.
At about 100,000 it started leaking oil, I was quoted about $900 for a repair (didn't do it).

At 130,000 had coil packs go out again - another $450 plus spark plugs.



Finally, I trade that POS for a 2018 Toyota 4runner, so far so good. Fahq German!
Yeah the MK1s were not great, new MQB platform is a big improvement. But I also don't plan to keep this one beyond the new 6 year/72k warranty.

You were paying dealer prices for coil pack replacement? That's easy peasy, 10 minute DIY plug n play job.

I strangely don't fit in 4runners. At 6'7 the leg/knee room just isn't there for me. But that is a much better vehicle than the new RAV4 of course.
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Old 04-05-2019, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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I did the opposite. Had a 2012 Tiguan, was nothing but a money-pit. Warranty ran out at 36000.

At 39000 had a fuel pump go out - $800 to fix.

At 75000 had a wheel bearing go out - $400 to fix.
At 95000 had coil packs go out - $450 to fix plus spark plugs.
At about 100,000 it started leaking oil, I was quoted about $900 for a repair (didn't do it).

At 130,000 had coil packs go out again - another $450 plus spark plugs.



Finally, I trade that POS for a 2018 Toyota 4runner, so far so good. Fahq German!
Now the Tiguan comes with a 6 year 72,000 mile warranty. But still, even if it's under warranty, who wants the hassles of always taking it in to get one thing after another fixed?
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Old 04-05-2019, 12:36 AM
 
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For some reason VW’s seem almost as expensive as a BMW after the warranty runs out. My sisters Audi was a money pit after the warranty ran out also. She got rid of it.
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Old 04-05-2019, 04:30 AM
 
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Ouch! Now that speaks plenty.

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Bought a Rav4 and traded it in after 3 months, the worst ride I've ever owned.
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Old 04-05-2019, 04:32 AM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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Think they screwed this up?
The Avalon got screwed up way worse.
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Old 04-05-2019, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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And that RAV4 legacy carries into its Lexus offpsring, NX200/300. Same noisy engine, same jerky shifts, same bumpy suspension.

I simply can't get rid of that feeling that Toyota was in bed with GM and it soaked into it. Have no proof, but they had shared models and some common mechanical issues, never fixed, are shared across the two brands... just a gut feel.... So sure they learned how to split pennies making cars.
I’ve never understood why someone who wants a Lexus would buy a NX200. Same thing with something like a Buick Encore. You can’t turn an economy car into a luxury vehicle, it doesn’t work.
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Old 04-05-2019, 09:09 AM
 
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Very true, yet it started with the Camry...talk about a polarizing design.

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Think they screwed this up?
The Avalon got screwed up way worse.
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Old 04-05-2019, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Ouch! Now that speaks plenty.
No it doesn't. My wife has a 2013 Rav4 XLE and she loves it. I like driving it too. Plus it has been a solid vehicle. No rattles, leaks, or any other issues. Seats are very comfortable for both of us and we love the interior.
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Old 04-05-2019, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Northern California
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Why do people who write about cars for a living have this vendetta against
"hard plastic trim," and a fetish for "soft surfaces" and leather??
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