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Old 03-17-2019, 11:17 AM
 
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Hello,

I'm new to cars and got a 2006 Subaru outback. For the almost past winter, the battery gave me a hard time so I got a new battery. But after a while I found out the car still need jump to start once a while (colder - around 2 - 3 weeks, warmer - around a month). When I look at the battery and the terminal, the wiring seems to not connected right and kind of loose. Would this be the reason for the drain? Have mechanic tested, the charging system seems good.


Please see the battery terminal pic in the link:
[url]https://photos.app.goo.gl/UiXPegxVKSjxiciw5[/url]

Sorry I couldn't find the proper way to upload pics here...

Thanks you so much!

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Old 03-17-2019, 11:24 AM
 
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Yes, a loose battery cable could cause issues. You did tighten it up to snug on the post?
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Old 03-17-2019, 12:32 PM
 
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Hello,

I'm new to cars and got a 2006 Subaru outback. For the almost past winter, the battery gave me a hard time so I got a new battery. But after a while I found out the car still need jump to start once a while (colder - around 2 - 3 weeks, warmer - around a month). When I look at the battery and the terminal, the wiring seems to not connected right and kind of loose. Would this be the reason for the drain? Have mechanic tested, the charging system seems good.


Please see the battery terminal pic in the link:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/UiXPegxVKSjxiciw5

Sorry I couldn't find the proper way to upload pics here...

Thanks you so much!
Yes, that's a problem. And what's with the battery cable being wrapped in electrical tape, with wiring strands hanging out? Did you hire one of my inbred cousins to work on that thing? Those clamp-on battery ends are junk and quickly become loose/corroded. Ok as a temporary fix, but really you need to just replace the entire battery cable.

Battery cables are a common problem and a cheap/easy fix. Make sure the ground cable is good too. Replace it if in doubt. Make sure all connection points are clean and tight.

Once the battery cables are good, make sure the alternator is charging correctly. At that point if you've got good cables, new battery, charging correctly... if it still cranks slow then the starter is about all that's left.
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Old 03-17-2019, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Once the battery cables are good, make sure the alternator is charging correctly. At that point if you've got good cables, new battery, charging correctly... if it still cranks slow then the starter is about all that's left.
The poor maintenance around the battery seems to be the culprit, but I'd also make sure the correct new battery was chosen. Not impossible that a cheaper (much lower CCA) battery was selected for the wrong reasons and it doesn't have enough punch on very cold days.
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Old 03-17-2019, 05:38 PM
 
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Sulfation due to a flaw in the charging-circuit or just not enough drive-time.
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Old 03-17-2019, 06:39 PM
 
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Yes, that's a problem. And what's with the battery cable being wrapped in electrical tape, with wiring strands hanging out? Did you hire one of my inbred cousins to work on that thing? Those clamp-on battery ends are junk and quickly become loose/corroded. Ok as a temporary fix, but really you need to just replace the entire battery cable.

Battery cables are a common problem and a cheap/easy fix. Make sure the ground cable is good too. Replace it if in doubt. Make sure all connection points are clean and tight.

Once the battery cables are good, make sure the alternator is charging correctly. At that point if you've got good cables, new battery, charging correctly... if it still cranks slow then the starter is about all that's left.
Not really. There could be a moderate parasitic drain on the battery.


Don in Austin
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Old 03-17-2019, 06:50 PM
 
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The poor maintenance around the battery seems to be the culprit, but I'd also make sure the correct new battery was chosen. Not impossible that a cheaper (much lower CCA) battery was selected for the wrong reasons and it doesn't have enough punch on very cold days.
If we're talking about sub-zero conditions, then that might be a factor. Otherwise it's a non-issue.

Depending on the vehicle, a starter is only going to draw 100 amps or so. Maybe 150 on a big V8. Any automotive battery in good condition will do that at reasonable temps.

Now if we're talking about temps below 0F... then yeah, maybe look at more CCA's.
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Old 03-17-2019, 06:55 PM
 
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Not really. There could be a moderate parasitic drain on the battery.


Don in Austin
Yeah, it's possible. A simple check for that is to just disconnect the cable and let it sit a couple days. If it starts that way (but not with the cables connected), then check for a current draw.

But 95% of the time, this sort of complaint is something simple. Like battery, cables, or starter.
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Old 03-17-2019, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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My neighbor had a similar problem. When I connected the boost cables, the engine started but when I removed the cable one of the battery cables came off with it. Who ever installed the battery didn't give enough turns on the wrench.
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Old 03-18-2019, 11:38 AM
 
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Hello,

I'm new to cars and got a 2006 Subaru outback. For the almost past winter, the battery gave me a hard time so I got a new battery. But after a while I found out the car still need jump to start once a while (colder - around 2 - 3 weeks, warmer - around a month). When I look at the battery and the terminal, the wiring seems to not connected right and kind of loose. Would this be the reason for the drain? Have mechanic tested, the charging system seems good.


Please see the battery terminal pic in the link:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/UiXPegxVKSjxiciw5

Sorry I couldn't find the proper way to upload pics here...

Thanks you so much!
Battery terminal corrosion can affect the output more quickly with a loose connection than one that can fully tighten. Not sure if you're a "dealer maintenance only" guy or a "fix it yourself-er" but they sell shims at auto parts stores for exactly the purpose of making battery connections tighter.
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