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Old 09-15-2019, 11:00 AM
 
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It's bad enough that most new cars no longer come with CD players. But what is worse is that most new cars don't even have spare tires!!!!!

Seems the more we have to pay for cars, the less we get.

They give us the obnoxious "lane-keep-assist" to keep us "safe", but won't give us a spare tire? (And while they are worrying about safety, quit integrating the heat and A/C controls into the entertainment system!)

Seems spares are even less likely to be found on high end cars! Mercedes, BMW, Infiniti and Lexus all forego spares.

Having just had a flat in the middle of nowhere in Texas (on my 2011 Nissan), I can't imagine if I had been in that situation with no spare.

Am I not the only one who finds this outrageous?
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Old 09-15-2019, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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CDs are legacy technology, passed in sales, along with buying and downloading MP3 files, by music streaming services. You can still listen to the radio, and for alternatives, most people subscribe to a music streaming service - like Spotify or Pandora, and receive that on their cell-phone and pipe it into the car's sound system using Apple Carplay or Android Auto integration. With Apple Carplay or Android Auto, you can also just go the website of any radio station in the country and pipe that into the car's audio system while you're on a road trip - you can stick with your fav station the whole time this way.

https://www.pcmag.com/roundup/260966...aming-services
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Old 09-15-2019, 11:42 AM
 
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CDs are legacy technology, passed in sales, along with buying and downloading MP3 files, by music streaming services. You can still listen to the radio, and for alternatives, most people subscribe to a music streaming service - like Spotify or Pandora, and receive that on their cell-phone and pipe it into the car's sound system using Apple Carplay or Android Auto integration. With Apple Carplay or Android Auto, you can also just go the website of any radio station in the country and pipe that into the car's audio system while you're on a road trip - you can stick with your fav station the whole time this way.

https://www.pcmag.com/roundup/260966...aming-services
Blah, blah, blah! Same old tired nonsense I always hear from the millennials. 7 of 10 new car buyers still WANT a CD player in their car. I only have one friend who doesn't want one and she doesn't listen to music. I guess not everyone is into working so hard to get their music. LOL!

Now go back to wasting money on and playing with all your gadgets!

And besides....this post isn't about CD players. Can you even read or do you have to have a gadget to do that for you, too?
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Old 09-15-2019, 11:45 AM
 
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Everything in the world is owned by 132 families.
They are only interested in one thing - profit.
They don't care if you pay car manufacturer, dealer, repair shop, towing company , insurance company or hospital - they still profit from it.
Hence, there is very simple logic - why make something that will last long or prevents owner from paying someone else to do it for him?

It is called "bad business". Good business is to keep you on "I have to pay for everything" leash. No matter what's the matter - you are forced to pay someone.

There is simple way out. Buy olden car with full spare and little to none computers, heavy cast iron engine, everything else HEAVY and solid. You won't impress anyone with it (besides those, who know) but you will have none of the headaches you worry about.
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Old 09-15-2019, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Blah, blah, blah! Same old tired nonsense I always hear from the millennials. 7 of 10 new car buyers still WANT a CD player in their car. I only have one friend who doesn't want one and she doesn't listen to music. I guess not everyone is into working so hard to get their music. LOL!

Now go back to wasting money on and playing with all your gadgets!
Ehhh, I am 60 years old, hardly a millennial. Just not clinging so tenaciously to the past. if you want to rail against carmakers for not providing devices that most buyers don't need anymore, go ahead, but don't try to insult me for trying to bring you more up to date.
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Old 09-15-2019, 11:49 AM
 
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Ehhh, I am 60 years old, hardly a millennial. Just not clinging so tenaciously to the past. if you want to rail against carmakers for not providing devices that most buyers don't need anymore, go ahead, but don't try to insult me for trying to bring you more up to date.
I have the majority on my side (most buyers DO want CD players), so you can call me antiquated all you want. LOL!

And car buyers most definitely want spare tires.
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Old 09-15-2019, 11:50 AM
 
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Everything in the world is owned by 132 families.
They are only interested in one thing - profit.
They don't care if you pay car manufacturer, dealer, repair shop, towing company , insurance company or hospital - they still profit from it.
Hence, there is very simple logic - why make something that will last long or prevents owner from paying someone else to do it for him?

It is called "bad business". Good business is to keep you on "I have to pay for everything" leash. No matter what's the matter - you are forced to pay someone.

There is simple way out. Buy olden car with full spare and little to none computers, heavy cast iron engine, everything else HEAVY and solid. You won't impress anyone with it (besides those, who know) but you will have none of the headaches you worry about.
Sigh.....Yes, I think you're right. They aren't interested in our safety either.....unless there's a dollar to be made.
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Old 09-15-2019, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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I have the majority on my side, so you can call me antiquated all you want. LOL!
So this was last year - 12% of music industry revenues were from physical media, i.e. cassette and 8-track tapes, albums, CDs combined. Welcome to reality.

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Old 09-15-2019, 12:03 PM
 
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So this was last year - 12% of music industry revenues were from physical media, i.e. cassette and 8-track tapes, albums, CDs combined. Welcome to reality.

Reality is that 7 of 10 car buyers still want a CD player in their cars. Your stats are pretty irrelevant given that most people already have established their CD libraries over the years. I seldom buy a new CD anymore. When I do it is used. But I have hundreds of CDs that I want to listen to, as do many others that you ignore. Your stats are based purely on what the millennials and younger buy.

You are one of those guys that likes to follow whatever industry tells you to like. Go ahead and follow if it makes you feel better, but don't expect of us to be sheep.

My original post was about tires. You also appear to be someone who just likes to spend his time on the internet finding people to disagree with.
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Old 09-15-2019, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Reality is that 7 of 10 car buyers still want a CD player in their cars. Your stats are pretty irrelevant given that most people already have established their CD libraries over the years. I seldom buy a new CD anymore. When I do it is used. But I have hundreds of CDs that I want to listen to, as do many others that you ignore. Your stats are based purely on what the millennials and younger buy.

You are one of those guys that likes to follow whatever industry tells you to like. Go ahead and follow if it makes you feel better, but don't expect of us to be sheep.
The stats aren't "my stats", they are industry stats, and not just for millennial sales, for all sales. Have you ever heard of the concept of "data driven decisions"? Sure beats making up your own world of alternative facts to make yourself feel better.
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