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Originally Posted by iamweasel
Consumer Reports is an awful publication when it comes to vehicles. Their data does not correlate to anything in the real world. They use a statistically insignificant sample size and mix-in "predictions" and "rules" largely based on a bunch of BS to rip-off customers who pay for their data. It's a sham organization. (At least when it comes to cars where I have personal experience with them. I have no clue if they operate their other divisions in the same manner.)
Then they offer nuggets like this buried in their press release: "Consumer Reports said only models that come standard with forward collision warning and automatic emergency braking with pedestrian detection were considered for the top picks list." HUH?
So just because it may be an option on some cars you penalize them for that??? And what does whether or not this feature is offered have to do with a vehicle's reliability, anyway? (It doesn't!) CR always has these arbitrary non-quality related things they like to plug into their "predicted reliability" equations for some reason.
I don't read it and have no idea of current methods but whenever someone would bring up CR a guy I used to work with would make the point they once tested an under dash 45 rpm record player (yeah, it was an old report) and knocked it because it wouldn't play upside down. I guess a good thing to keep in mind should you insist on music while rolling your vehicle.
That rant doesn't deserve a point-by-point, but it's just straight up false.
no need for a "point by point" breakdown. I would be happy for you to point out a single thing that is false. consumer reports is the NPR of the automotive world.
I don't read it and have no idea of current methods but whenever someone would bring up CR a guy I used to work with would make the point they once tested an under dash 45 rpm record player (yeah, it was an old report) and knocked it because it wouldn't play upside down. I guess a good thing to keep in mind should you insist on music while rolling your vehicle.
As with most of the complaints against CR in this thread, that one is laughably false. Here's what CR actually wrote regarding the few cars that had record players back in the day.
Actually you don't concur with their findings on Honda, 17th in this CR list and Acura is 24. They have been extremely reliable for me, which immediately has to make you wonder about these new CR rankings, especially with several German cars in the top 10. Or as another poster noted, maybe the range of variance in quality is decreasing so that these rankings become less useful. In other words, this ranking is not as important as it once was in the deciding fator on choosing a car, as all the OEMs have improved?
I noticed American cars are at the bottom of that list.
Consumer Reports are concerned about safety, reliability, I keep that in mind when I read their reports
The bottom two spots are Fiat and Mitsubishi.
The brands not shown in the OPs image:
27: Alfa Romeo
28: Jaguar
29: Cadillac
30: Land Rover
31: Jeep
32: Mitsubishi
33: Fiat
As with most of the complaints against CR in this thread, that one is laughably false. Here's what CR actually wrote regarding the few cars that had record players back in the day.
Wow if Honda's 15th out of 33 then most makers are making some pretty dang good cars. Personally I think Honda should be ahead of some of those.
Nobody dislikes the current generation Accord. It might be having some problems with the turbo engines, but the design itself is top notch.
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