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Old 03-25-2020, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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How filthy is that charging cable?

Mine isn't filthy at all, since I'm the only one that ever touches it. I don't have to go somewhere and interact with anyone.
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Old 03-25-2020, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Denver
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https://electrek.co/2020/03/25/gm-ch...iscount-lease/
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Old 03-25-2020, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Yup, here's the dealer I went to, and the prices are pretty low again this month: https://www.sportchevrolet.com/Vehic...odel=Bolt%20EV
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Old 03-25-2020, 03:55 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Yup, here's the dealer I went to, and the prices are pretty low again this month: https://www.sportchevrolet.com/Vehic...odel=Bolt%20EV
A new Bolt at a $25K vehicle is a stellar value, but it has to be pretty rare, right?
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Old 03-26-2020, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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A new Bolt at a $25K vehicle is a stellar value, but it has to be pretty rare, right?

Not right now.
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Old 03-26-2020, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I be curious even with falling gasoline prices I would be curious whether EVs would be popular again due to people learning how filthy gas pump handles can be. And how one might not be able to get gasoline readily in an extreme situation.
Are the electrical plugs at charging stations any cleaner than gas pump handles? We have power failures at my house far more readily than failures at gas pumps. And in an "extreme situation" I'm not sure I'd care to sit around for 2 hours while my EV charges enough to get me another 100 miles...when I can fuel my current rig in 5 minutes and go 600 miles.
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Old 03-27-2020, 07:48 AM
 
Location: NJ
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i find lease deals with downpayments absolutely ridiculous. the monthly payment means nothing because it can always be lowered by adding to the down payment. $199 sounds great but that is only if you make the equivalent of 13 months worth of payments up front. i wish lease deals were standardized with 0 down payment.
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Old 03-27-2020, 09:04 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Are the electrical plugs at charging stations any cleaner than gas pump handles? We have power failures at my house far more readily than failures at gas pumps. And in an "extreme situation" I'm not sure I'd care to sit around for 2 hours while my EV charges enough to get me another 100 miles...when I can fuel my current rig in 5 minutes and go 600 miles.
I doubt electrical plugs at fast charging stations are substantially different in terms of cleanliness when it comes to germs than gas pump handles. The benefit of electric vehicles is that you supposedly can charge at home or charge at a fast charging station. I'll add that current EV models don't generally take anywhere near 2 hours to get 100 miles, but it's also not 5 minutes for 600 miles either. It ranges more like 7 to 30 minutes for 100 miles depending on what (current model) EV you're driving and how empty to battery is/how fast the charger is. Fast charging rates and the number of fast chargers available is probably the fastest improving metric for EVs, even though things like cost per capacity, gravimetric energy density, and volumetric energy density are all also improving pretty quickly.

Again, though, most people charge at home and that's where you have more control over how clean your charger is since it's your plug in your home. Sorry to hear about your frequent power failures at home--maybe you might want to consider having a large home battery pack. The prices for those have been dropping pretty quickly. They might still be out of your price range now, but since battery prices are dropping quickly and home battery installations are picking up a bit which should mean better economies of scale, then it might make sense to check up on prices every year or so.
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Old 03-27-2020, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Frisco, TX
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We've been considering a used Bolt or Leaf.

I wonder if the lowered gas prices will impact their resale value?

What is the best way to track used prices?
I think it's highly dependent on your specific car market in this case Denver.

If you’re looking at a Leaf with around one hundred miles a range, then picking one up used could be a steal especially if you’re only using it to commute to work, run errands etc.

We bought a 2015 Nissan Leaf that was rated for about 110 miles new for just over 25,000 before any tax credits. It had 90,000 miles on it when we sold it last summer in Atlanta for 6,000.
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