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Old 04-23-2020, 09:09 PM
 
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Mannheim separates the values of 2 different Foresters. 1 is listed as forester, the other as forester awd. Both adjust for trim packages. Did Subaru not have a forester fwd?
Of course not.

Big difference is basically XT with the turbo or not.
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Old 04-24-2020, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Looking at buying a 12 year-old Subaru Forester off a Ford dealer in a mountain region where Subarus are popular. They took this car obviously in a trade-in it is 12 years old and has 63,000 miles. What do you think they have in it? How low will they go? They are asking $6,995.00 which is directly in-line with the Car Gurus live pricing on the app. In my area it's only a great deal if you can buy a car for about 2,000 less than that CarGurus price. I feel like I can be pretty aggressive right now on any offer, please advise. My guess is they paid $1,000 for it, maybe $2,000? Can I ask to see that paperwork? Need all advice
Probably $5K since a low mileage Forester will sell in a heartbeat.

What they paid is irrelevant. They don't consider what they have in the car. They consider what the car will bring at market, both at an auction and retail. Once in a while they screw up and overpay for a car; they don't sell it for more since they have more money in it.
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Old 04-24-2020, 08:42 AM
 
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Along with all the "doesn't matter what the paid for it" posts (which I agree with), consider, there is really no way to know what they paid for it, even with the paperwork. Sometimes they can play with numbers to make the customer feel better. They can give you more for your trade if they get you to buy the new one at sticker. On the other hand, they can sell the new car at little to no profit, if they think they can get a good deal on your trade. So, the trade-in alone (without knowing the price of the new car that it was traded for) doesn't tell much of a story.
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Old 05-01-2020, 12:41 AM
 
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For starter, a new car dealer owned by AutoNation franchise is more than likely to give better trade-in value than family-owned dealerships.
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Old 05-01-2020, 03:15 PM
 
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Mannheim mmr (which every dealer uses) is 3125 for fwd, 4400 for awd.
At least in the US all Subarus are awd.
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Old 05-02-2020, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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What they paid for it is irrelevant to the dealer. That is part of a transaction from the past. All they care about is what they can get for it and how quickly they can turn it over. They will give you a better price on the sale if you are financing it than they will if you are paying cash because they make money on the financing. They will also give you a lower purchase price if you buy an extended warranty with it as they make a lot on the extended warranties.
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Old 05-02-2020, 06:29 AM
 
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What they paid for it is irrelevant to the dealer. That is part of a transaction from the past. All they care about is what they can get for it and how quickly they can turn it over. They will give you a better price on the sale if you are financing it than they will if you are paying cash because they make money on the financing. They will also give you a lower purchase price if you buy an extended warranty with it as they make a lot on the extended warranties.
OP was asking about a 12 year old car, financing and warranties are highly unlikely.
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