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Old 12-10-2020, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I like to ask people what it means when someone buys a hybrid or diesel car. I reply that it means they drive a lot of miles, because that is the only way to make the higher initial cost pay off.

My electric car (2020 Bolt) was $25k new, and that means a lease cost of around $200 a month. I can see savings right away vs a typical gas powered car with similar performance (200 hp and 266 lb ft of torque for instant throttle response at any legal speed). No oil changes or normal maintenance, either.


You can pick up a used version for about $14-17k now with very low miles and save even more. Or you could pick up a 1st gen Volt for $8k and do most of your commuting on electric and still save a ton on gas and maintenance.


And at the end of their life in a car, the batteries can be used for stationary storage, both residential and commercial, and at the end of THAT lifespan, they can be recycled.
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Old 12-22-2020, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, TX
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Teslas are also starting to be around that same price range
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Old 12-23-2020, 04:35 AM
 
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Cars also have to be put somewhere. Think of all the resources we put into parking lots and garages.
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Old 12-23-2020, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Cars also have to be put somewhere. Think of all the resources we put into parking lots and garages.
And just think all parking lots and most state roads are made from asphalt witch is made from petroleum crude oil, so you will never get rid of crude oil, concrete is way more expensive to use .
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Old 12-25-2020, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, TX
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And just think all parking lots and most state roads are made from asphalt witch is made from petroleum crude oil, so you will never get rid of crude oil, concrete is way more expensive to use .
Why do most driveways at homes use concrete?
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Old 12-25-2020, 08:56 AM
 
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Why do most driveways at homes use concrete?
Says who?
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Old 12-25-2020, 09:53 AM
 
Location: on the wind
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Why do most driveways at homes use concrete?
Do they? Obviously not a scientific sampling, but a quick recall of my relatives' family homes would suggest otherwise. They were either blacktop or gravel.
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Old 12-25-2020, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Why do most driveways at homes use concrete?
Because the owners want it, and some cut down on expenses chose blacktop, were i live thers plenty of homes that have blacktop driveways, see them out there seal coating their driveways every fall. Concrete is very expensive compared to asphalt.
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Old 12-25-2020, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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If you consider humans on earth as "impurities", as the logical end of this argument is, even you being alive has an environmental impact.
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Old 12-25-2020, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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I couldn't see blacktop driveways in the Sunbelt because sometimes you do want to walk out to the mailbox without puttign shoes on and asphalt would make that a no go during hot summer months.
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