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Old 01-23-2021, 10:03 AM
 
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Electric Vehicles Close to ‘Tipping Point’ of Mass Adoption

Starting to look that way. No, it won't be 100% and ICE motors won't be extinct. But the train has left the station and it ain't coming back; automakers are just about fully invested in EV's now.

"Global sales rose 43% in 2020, but even faster growth is anticipated when continuing falls in battery prices bring the price of electric cars dipping below that of equivalent petrol and diesel models, even without subsidies. The latest analyses forecast that to happen some time between 2023 and 2025."

When "peak oil" happens it won't be due to declining production, it'll be from declining demand.

 
Old 01-23-2021, 02:32 PM
 
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Electric Vehicles Close to ‘Tipping Point’ of Mass Adoption

Starting to look that way. No, it won't be 100% and ICE motors won't be extinct. But the train has left the station and it ain't coming back; automakers are just about fully invested in EV's now.

"Global sales rose 43% in 2020, but even faster growth is anticipated when continuing falls in battery prices bring the price of electric cars dipping below that of equivalent petrol and diesel models, even without subsidies. The latest analyses forecast that to happen some time between 2023 and 2025."

When "peak oil" happens it won't be due to declining production, it'll be from declining demand.
I don't think so yet. Because the $25k CUV EV has yet to appear. Which Tesla could be announcing. The only thing is we just don't have the infrastructure yet to support 100k EVs on the road each state yet. It will likely cause blackouts in many cities.
 
Old 01-23-2021, 02:39 PM
 
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I don't think so yet. Because the $25k CUV EV has yet to appear. Which Tesla could be announcing. The only thing is we just don't have the infrastructure yet to support 100k EVs on the road each state yet. It will likely cause blackouts in many cities.
We can just build lots of coal fueled plants to produce more electricity. lol

This is what is going to make the electric car sell:
Electric car batteries with five-minute charging times produced
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...charging-times
 
Old 01-23-2021, 02:49 PM
 
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I don't think so yet. Because the $25k CUV EV has yet to appear. Which Tesla could be announcing. The only thing is we just don't have the infrastructure yet to support 100k EVs on the road each state yet. It will likely cause blackouts in many cities.
Actually, EV's will help avoid blackouts. Here in California we often have surplus electricity around high noon due to large amounts of solar power production. EVs can help sponge up that excess and in effect become rolling storage. In future emergencies, utilities will be able to draw power from car batteries back into the grid. It's called Vehicle-to-Grid (V2G) and manufacturers are designing that capability into new models. The grid will need to be updated and expanded, yes, but the transition will be manageable.
 
Old 01-23-2021, 03:03 PM
 
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We can just build lots of coal fueled plants to produce more electricity. lol

This is what is going to make the electric car sell:
Electric car batteries with five-minute charging times produced
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...charging-times
But we don't need to, we can just use conventional vehicles.
 
Old 01-23-2021, 03:04 PM
 
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Actually, EV's will help avoid blackouts. Here in California we often have surplus electricity around high noon due to large amounts of solar power production. EVs can help sponge up that excess and in effect become rolling storage. In future emergencies, utilities will be able to draw power from car batteries back into the grid. It's called Vehicle-to-Grid (V2G) and manufacturers are designing that capability into new models. The grid will need to be updated and expanded, yes, but the transition will be manageable.
If your vehicle is charging the grid then it's discharging and it's useless to you.

I can forgo all of that nonsense by just buying a $5,000 used vehicle.
 
Old 01-23-2021, 03:10 PM
 
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Electric Vehicles Close to ‘Tipping Point’ of Mass Adoption

Starting to look that way. No, it won't be 100% and ICE motors won't be extinct. But the train has left the station and it ain't coming back; automakers are just about fully invested in EV's now.

"Global sales rose 43% in 2020, but even faster growth is anticipated when continuing falls in battery prices bring the price of electric cars dipping below that of equivalent petrol and diesel models, even without subsidies. The latest analyses forecast that to happen some time between 2023 and 2025."

When "peak oil" happens it won't be due to declining production, it'll be from declining demand.

People didn't move to gas cars, because they ran out of hay for the horses.


It'll probably be by some time in 2023 when the US sees at least 10% new vehicle market share for plug-ins. I'm guessing we'll see majority by some time in 2028. Of course, because the median age of the US's car fleet is nearing 12 years old, it'll probably be a couple of decades before the majority of vehicles in the US are plug-ins.
 
Old 01-23-2021, 03:12 PM
 
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I could envision the maintenance crew running that extension cord over with a lawn mower.
 
Old 01-23-2021, 03:12 PM
 
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People didn't move to gas cars, because they ran out of hay for the horses.
believe it or not they moved toward vehicles with internal combustion engines because of the shortfalls of electric vehicles,
 
Old 01-23-2021, 04:47 PM
 
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I haven't looked at the stats but I don't know one person that switched to EV in the last few years.
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