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Dr. Walliser believes that conventionally-fueled engines that use synthetic fuel will turn ICE-equipped cars into machines that are as clean as EVs. He added that eFuel is important to Porsche to reduce their CO2 output, citing that synthetic fuels are cleaner, have no by-product, have fewer particulates, and less NOx produced than current pump fuel.
Synthetic fuel might actually be the answer that make a lot more sense in the future than EV's which are limited by battery & electric grid
Synthetic fuel might actually be the answer that make a lot more sense in the future than EV's which are limited by battery & electric grid.
EVs are not limited by battery and electric grid at all. catch up. Electricity is even in the sticks.
No matter what fuel is used, an internal combustion engine is still hopelessly inefficient. This Porsche fuel looks like an attempt to to keep old classic cars running, no more.
EVs are not limited by battery and electric grid at all. catch up. Electricity is even in the sticks.
No matter what fuel is used, an internal combustion engine is still hopelessly inefficient. This Porsche fuel looks like an attempt to to keep old classic cars running, no more.
On the contrary, ICE's are becoming more efficient each year because of the CAFE and other government mandates. ICE's can also run on natural gas or propane, but the safest and cheapest is petroleum and biofuels.
So, just out of curiosity.. What is the synthetic fuel made from?
I mean, if they make it from nuclear waste and it outputs nothing but clean air.. Winner.
if it's like friggin ethanol, where you take up farmland for food to make fuel.. Not that this is a large problem, but if we're going to replace all gas with it.. Certainly could be a problem.
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Originally Posted by John-UK
EVs are not limited by battery and electric grid at all. catch up. Electricity is even in the sticks.
No matter what fuel is used, an internal combustion engine is still hopelessly inefficient. This Porsche fuel looks like an attempt to to keep old classic cars running, no more.
Hello from the sticks. You are incorrect. There's not a charging station within 25 miles of me.
Now, if I owned one, I could have a charger put in my house.. But, if someone were visiting me.. Not so much.
EV is the future, no question. But mass adoption will not come about until such time as recharging is as simple as refueling is now. Even with the cord to my house (Without a charging station), isn't the charge time ungodly?
and then, if you're doing a road trip, having to plan where to stop, unlike there being a gas station at every exit on the interstate.
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Originally Posted by tickyul
Modern ICE engines are clean, very clean.
In good repair, the actual output of pollutants is next to nothing.
Depends on your definition of pollutants. CO2.. Well, it's still there. And more than 'next to nothing'.
And your 'in good repair' caveat is a pretty big caveat. Some of the vehicles I see on the road...
At Car and Driver: "Porsche’s eFuels are made out of CO2 and hydrogen and are produced using renewable energy...One of eFuel’s big benefits is that you can pump it into a standard gasoline-powered vehicle without needing to make any adjustments to the engine."
I'm not buying this... the new fuel has a radically different chemistry compared to gasoline and there will be no needed adjustments to air-fuel mixture, valve timing, compression ratios, etc? And anything to do with hydrogen is energy intensive. I'm smelling marketing BS here...
"Dr. Walliser said that when Porsche starts full production of eFuel, they expect a CO2 reduction of 85 percent. The German marque targets to start trials in 2022." - that sounds a little too good to be true. They don't say anything about what's in it, which doesn't help the impression that I have of magic.
I’ve been noticing it in the Porsche Facebook feed. I’m assuming you’d have to fill up at dealers only? I don’t see this working...and dealers charging $10+ per gallon.
In good repair, the actual output of pollutants is next to nothing.
Which makes one wonder what is the actual "cleaner" solution to automobiles? ICE's with biofuels and synthetic fuels vs electrics and their batteries and need for charging. If all the manufacturing and sustained use pollutants are added up for both types of vehicles, which ones would pollute less? I don't have an answer, and I doubt we will ever get one.
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I don’t see this working...and dealers charging $10+ per gallon.
