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Old 03-10-2021, 07:58 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Because all the upcoming cars are either EV, hybrid, or boring SUV, CUV.

The fun cars are either too expensive or not as connected as cars made between 2001-2012.

Maybe the Subaru BRZ and Miata will be the last affordable pure cars, everything else coming out will be too digital or boring to drive and expensive.

This is why many good condition cars made in this era from Civics, GTIs, G8, Corvettes, Mazdaspeed 3, STI, Evos, Boxster, Cayman, BMW M3s, etc will all become more valuable soon.
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Old 03-10-2021, 08:42 AM
 
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No. They are not going to become more valuable.

Modern safety features outweigh all.

But, for those seeking a good used car. A nice 10 year old one owner no accidents no rust low miles car of any kind is a good choice.
Except those with poor quality records.
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Old 03-10-2021, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Central Mass
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No. They are not going to become more valuable.

Modern safety features outweigh all.

But, for those seeking a good used car. A nice 10 year old one owner no accidents no rust low miles car of any kind is a good choice.
Except those with poor quality records.
Like always, certain ones will.

E39 M5s, NB Miatas, etc. have been appreciating. Outside the scope of the statement, look at the values of NA Miatas! Cars that 10-15 years ago could be had for a bag of lint now start at $15k.

A Chevy Malibu? hell no.

Right now we're going through what happened with muscle cars turn of the century. Once boomers got money, lots of them were bought and drove up values. Today Gen X got money and are buying nice 80s cars. In 20 years, millenials will have the money and buy up cars from 00-10.
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Old 03-10-2021, 09:19 AM
 
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Just another anti-tech, anti-EV, nostalgia proposition with little/no facts to back it up.
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Old 03-10-2021, 09:24 AM
 
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No. They are not going to become more valuable.

Modern safety features outweigh all.

But, for those seeking a good used car. A nice 10 year old one owner no accidents no rust low miles car of any kind is a good choice.
Except those with poor quality records.
Actually you are wrong...........

Many of those cars listed in the OP's opening were manual transmissions or oddball cars that are no longer made. Nobody buys an M3 or Cayman because of the safety features.

Go over to a site like Bring a Trailer .com (it won't let me hot link it) and look at what stuff is selling for every day. A 3 year old Porsche 911 (1500 miles) just sold for $40,000 MORE than MSRP new!

People will pay a premium for cars that aren't made anymore. There is a Honda S2000 that is up over $52,000 in bids and it sold new in 2007 for about 30K. Again, its a car no longer made and has nothing to do with modern safety features.
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Old 03-10-2021, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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Just another anti-tech, anti-EV, nostalgia proposition with little/no facts to back it up.
I think the OP owns a Tesla, so how is he/she anti-EV?
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Old 03-10-2021, 10:34 AM
 
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I think the OP owns a Tesla, so how is he/she anti-EV?
LOL my bad. The post just sounded a lot like the recent "new bad, old good" posts here.
Apologies!
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Old 03-10-2021, 12:22 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I think most people are missing the point here. EVs are the future but it doesn't change the narrative that these cars I mentioned will become the newer classic cars to have.

I current drive Tesla Model S, it is super fast but it's just not as engaging to drive. Plus the newer cars coming out are even more appliance like than ever. Do we need anymore superlative SUVs? How many more hybrid/EV sports sedans that make no sound and have no mechanical feel?

EVs are fast but the achilles heal is the weight, it can't out handle mid-rear engine mounted light weight sports cars.

And none of the newer cars have a decent mechanical manual gearbox. All new sports cars over $40k have some sort of automatic paddle shifter that are clutchless.

So more and more older modern era cars will become the cars to collect.
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Old 03-10-2021, 12:46 PM
 
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I think most people are missing the point here. EVs are the future but it doesn't change the narrative that these cars I mentioned will become the newer classic cars to have.

I current drive Tesla Model S, it is super fast but it's just not as engaging to drive. Plus the newer cars coming out are even more appliance like than ever. Do we need anymore superlative SUVs? How many more hybrid/EV sports sedans that make no sound and have no mechanical feel?

EVs are fast but the achilles heal is the weight, it can't out handle mid-rear engine mounted light weight sports cars.

And none of the newer cars have a decent mechanical manual gearbox. All new sports cars over $40k have some sort of automatic paddle shifter that are clutchless.

So more and more older modern era cars will become the cars to collect.
Oh this I think makes sense too. Car & Driver even had a mini-editorial about this a few months ago, about when the tech vs. control vs. limits equation was in its most balanced state.
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Old 03-10-2021, 01:09 PM
 
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I think most people are missing the point here. EVs are the future but it doesn't change the narrative that these cars I mentioned will become the newer classic cars to have.

I current drive Tesla Model S, it is super fast but it's just not as engaging to drive. Plus the newer cars coming out are even more appliance like than ever. Do we need anymore superlative SUVs? How many more hybrid/EV sports sedans that make no sound and have no mechanical feel?

EVs are fast but the achilles heal is the weight, it can't out handle mid-rear engine mounted light weight sports cars.

And none of the newer cars have a decent mechanical manual gearbox. All new sports cars over $40k have some sort of automatic paddle shifter that are clutchless.

So more and more older modern era cars will become the cars to collect.
2021 911/M3/M4 can still be manuals.........Miata and sporty Subarus too!

I went to look at a new M3 last weekend, their nationwide release date is this Saturday (nobody can buy or even drive one before then). Car was sold, put away so nobody could look at it (dumb). Buyer is taking it home Saturday
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