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NJ is a CARB state, they MUST follow their leader, as will all these states. (They are a coalition for emission rules and compliance, they can't do different things from their agreed rules, which will include everything CARB dictates)
The following states that have adopted the California standards are: Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico (2011 model year and later), New York, Nevada, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Virginia, Vermont, and Washington (2009 model year and later),
NJ is a CARB state, they MUST follow their leader, as will all these states. (They are a coalition for emission rules and compliance, they can't do different things from their agreed rules, which will include everything CARB dictates)
The following states that have adopted the California standards are: Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico (2011 model year and later), New York, Nevada, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Virginia, Vermont, and Washington (2009 model year and later),
Not quite true - they can follow CARB or EPA rules - they do not have to follow CARBs every move like a conga line if they do not want to. For example, currently Delaware and Pennsylvania follow LEV regulations but not ZEV regulations and only a couple of states have committed to the BEV requirements. They can choose to go with the EPA for BEV requirements and make their own timeline for implementation.
States do not follow some of the other CARB regulations such as rules on diesel trucks or small engines. Currently CARB regulation requires diesel trucks and buses with a GVWR greater than 14K pounds to be fitted with 2010 or newer engines in CA. CARB also regulates small engines not in vehicles such as in lawn mowers in CA - other states do not follow those requirements either.
Your list is a little off also - some on your list are not CARB yet - New Mexico, Nevada and Virginia do not yet follow CARB regs - NV and VA scheduled for implementation in 2025, NM in 2026 - Minnesota, not on your list is also CARB starting in 2025. Current CARB list for light vehicles - https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/sites/default...ales_r2_ac.pdf
I hope these bans will be reversed in time. It's certainly possible that all the issues with EVs for all the people with different circumstances will be solved within the next decade. But maybe not - it's not a given.
I hope these bans will be reversed in time. It's certainly possible that all the issues with EVs for all the people with different circumstances will be solved within the next decade. But maybe not - it's not a given.
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I hope these bans will be reversed in time. It's certainly possible that all the issues with EVs for all the people with different circumstances will be solved within the next decade. But maybe not - it's not a given.
Arbitrary deadlines and be arbitrarily moved or removed.
Certainly, even beyond the climate change issue, there is the reality that oil is finite - and not only do we need it for fuel, we also need it for polymers, paints, glues, coatings - which have an absolutely enormous range of vital applications today - there is almost nothing that one can think of in commercial products that don't make use of one or more of these, then of course other vital applications are in medicines and vaccines...
I certainly don't argue for holding the status quo indefinitely when it comes to burning fossil fuels - I want to see us make significant reductions. But I think that while you're doing that, you also need to be thoughtful and try to minimize any "collateral damage".
So are we in favor of nuclear power yet? How do we charge up all those EV's? How to we power all those electric stoves?
I am, and have made at least two dozen posts here advocating for next generation nuclear power and providing info.
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