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Old 03-28-2023, 04:45 PM
 
Location: western NY
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Most other government services are not social engineering.
And the "charging stations" for ICE vehicles, in other words, "gas stations", are private enterprises.
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Old 03-28-2023, 07:39 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Ever seen invisible writing on this forum? Well, here’s some.

https://www.eesi.org/papers/view/fac...societal-costs
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Old 03-31-2023, 04:56 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Normally, I would be against this, but if we’re going to be forced into EVs in the future, it’s a good idea to invest in putting charging stations all over the country.
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Old 04-01-2023, 09:52 AM
 
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Normally, I would be against this, but if we’re going to be forced into EVs in the future, it’s a good idea to invest in putting charging stations all over the country.
Oh I agree, so long as we are not using Federal tax receipts. There is ample incentive for private enterprises to establish charging stations and networks.
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Old 04-01-2023, 10:15 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Here’s to those invisible oil incentives again!

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Old 04-01-2023, 10:31 AM
 
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PJM Interconnection is one of the nation’s largest grid operators, managing electricity in 13 Eastern States covering 65 million people in its territory.

Here's a link to a recent ominous report from the electric grid operator: https://www.pjm.com/-/media/library/...and-risks.ashx

The PJM report forecasts power supply and demand through 2030 in its territory. Its top-line conclusion: Fossil-fuel power plants are retiring much faster than renewable sources are getting developed, which could lead to energy “imbalances.”

That’s a delicate way of saying to expect shortages and blackouts.

The retirement of fossil-fuel power plants is driven by policy and the desire of the governing class to de-carbonize.

But that same governing class makes bringing online new solar & wind plants time consuming, not to mention excessively expensive.

In the longer term - post 2035 - the hope is enough new generating capacity will be available - at a much higher cost to end customers - but that is dependent on the NIMBY crowd and anti-everything crowd staying away from the courts to block new utility scale developments.
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