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Old 05-21-2023, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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This is great news, but I'd have to see it occur for more than just 1 quarter before I get too excited.
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Old 05-21-2023, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Bring back the station wagon.
Yeah, I'd like to see this, too. They're still fairly popular in Europe.
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Old 05-22-2023, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Central Mass
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The newly released Toyota Crown sedan reviews say it sits higher than traditional sedans, seat height being closer to a small crossover. I remember the same being said of the Volvo based Ford Five Hundred.
That's cause we're not getting the new 16th generation Crown, we're getting the Crown SportCross which is a crossover. we aren't getting the Crown sedan or the Crown estate/station wagon. Those are Asia only.
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Old 05-22-2023, 06:56 AM
 
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I like sedans and wagons. I'm ambivalent about which I like better, since they both have their advantages and disadvantages. Next up: hatchbacks, CUVs, crossover pickups (Ridgeline, for example), followed by real compact trucks (pre-2004 Tacoma), then mid-size pickups, then body-on-frame trucks/SUVs with IRS. In dead last - by a wide margin - are full-sized body-on-frame pickups/SUVs with a live axle rear suspension setup. These turds should be illegal except for commercial or real farm use.
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Old 05-22-2023, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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https://www.kbb.com/car-news/in-an-s...ke-a-comeback/

Wish more people drove traditional cars over SUVs and trucks they don’t actually need.

I think you have to pay strong attention to the article....they cost a lot less when people have a lot less to spend, and more importantly, in the time frame represented, you could not get a truck or SUV to save your life. as the supply chain eases, I expect this to reverse, but not pricing concerns.
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Old 05-22-2023, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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After having driven an SUV for a few years, I don't think I'll buy a sedan in the future. But it's a type of car that should still be available, so I'm glad people are buying them as well. To be honest here in the D.C. area sedans never stopped being a significant presence just like trucks aren't as ubiquitous here as they're in much of the country.


I think wagons are kind of a different story. Wagons were already killed in the U.S. market by minivans, then minivans got all but killed by SUVs in turn. The German luxury wagons are a very niche phenomenon (and even in Europe not all that common except as fleet vehicles).
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Old 05-22-2023, 08:02 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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A mere 2% increase in one quarter is not significant, and is certainly not indicative of a trend.
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Old 05-22-2023, 08:04 AM
 
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They might be the only ones on the lot!
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Old 05-22-2023, 08:08 AM
 
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https://www.kbb.com/car-news/in-an-s...ke-a-comeback/

Wish more people drove traditional cars over SUVs and trucks they don’t actually need.
While I do need a full size pickup or SUV, I don't need one all the time, and would much rather be driving a sedan. My choice would be a CT5-V Blackwing.
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Old 05-22-2023, 08:12 AM
 
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Bring back the station wagon.
Yep.

I so wanted a Buick Regal TourX, or Cadillac CTS-V Wagon.

The Porsche Taycan 4 Cross Turismo is pretty cool as well.
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