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Old 12-18-2009, 09:10 PM
 
Location: H-town, TX.
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I'd take a 30 year old rusted out Saab and use as lawn art before I'd drive a new Camaro, Impala, Malibu, Trailblazer or any of that uninspiring junk they make. GM uses an ex-football player to badmouth the Japanese cars...then the idiots in the audience buy it up and purchase these GM trash cans on wheels. Gotta love the all American mindset
Can you blame that mindset? It was the mindset that helped bury the US auto industry. Consumers who bought junk just because it was made in their own backyard showed the marketing geniuses that they'd buy anything...even if it was a Daewoo product with a Chevy badge on it. And they did!

So, I'm watching the Villanova-Montana ballgame and they mentioned that 'Nova shut down it's program after Howie Long graduated. THAT, mi amigo, is not a good omen for GM.
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Old 12-19-2009, 12:00 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Within months of the GM takeover I hurried up and bought a used mint 1991900 Turbo Convertible b/c I knew GM wasn't going to do anything to maintain SAAB's integrity as a maker of unique automobiles.
I previously had owned a 900TC while in my twenties which was my FAVORITE car of all time.

As a SAAB fanatic I would have much rather seen SAAB pull out of the US market making cool quirky cars that made the brand a standout rather than taking the buyout and loss of its unique identity.

SAAB has long been dead in my eyes...consumed and exploited by mass marketing.

All that remained was the name.

I hope SAAB will primarily be remembered for its earlier years as an independant maker of fine Swedish automobiles..RIP
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Old 12-19-2009, 01:54 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Well I reckon the value of my Saab just dropped by half. Not that it was worth much before.
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Old 12-19-2009, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Honestly, if GM hadn't bought Saab, Saab would have disappeared nearly two decades ago.
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Old 12-19-2009, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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But they have a racing pedigree, and that's what matters, right?
Thanks again, fine sir, for yet another wonderful, insightful, beautifully composed response.
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Old 12-19-2009, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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Can you blame that mindset? It was the mindset that helped bury the US auto industry. Consumers who bought junk just because it was made in their own backyard showed the marketing geniuses that they'd buy anything...even if it was a Daewoo product with a Chevy badge on it.
Daewoo weren't made in the USA, so technically consumers weren't buying junk made in their own backyards, they were buying junk built from overseas. They actually would have been better off buying cars built in their own backyards. Same goes for people who bought Trackers, Festivas, Prizms, etc. They WOULD have been better off buying American.
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Old 12-19-2009, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Thanks again, fine sir, for yet another wonderful, insightful, beautifully composed response.
I aim to please.
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Old 12-19-2009, 05:17 PM
 
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To analyze GM best you can compare them to the aliens in the movie 'Independence Day.' GM is the locusts of the auto industry, using their wealth to buy smaller makes and bleeding them dry of their resources before moving on to the next take over.
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Old 12-19-2009, 05:57 PM
 
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I loved Saabs, I am sad to see them go. But as Steve-o said, GM did the marque no favors.

I was hoping someone would save them and bring the back to (near) what they once were, but in these times I guess that is just not possible.

Eric "on the roof" Carlsson cannot be happy about this.

http://www.saabhistory.com/2009/03/1...80th-birthday/
Well Koenigsegg, the Swedish supercar maker did try and get a deal working for the longest time. The mistake, according to a Norwegian investor in Koenigsegg, was that they played with open cards about their business plan, causing GM to get greedy, trying to overcharge for parts etc.

Saab was close to being saved, but GM chose (through their actions) to let it die instead of cutting their losses.
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Old 12-19-2009, 07:33 PM
 
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Well Koenigsegg, the Swedish supercar maker did try and get a deal working for the longest time. The mistake, according to a Norwegian investor in Koenigsegg, was that they played with open cards about their business plan, causing GM to get greedy, trying to overcharge for parts etc.

Saab was close to being saved, but GM chose (through their actions) to let it die instead of cutting their losses.
That figures, piling more crap onto years of mismanagement.
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