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Qantas departs JFK tonight at 9pm. First ever non-stop between the two cities. Its a training flight not commercial. Basically a training lab to study effects of a 20 hour flight. Commercial flights are scheduled to begin 2022.
Actually impressive they have planes with that kind of range. I am guessing they will utilize that crew bunk pretty heavily; better get good mattresses in there!
What kind of plane are they flying?
Are passengers ok with this? 20 hours...I might actually want a layover to stretch my legs and get away from cabin air.
Actually impressive they have planes with that kind of range. I am guessing they will utilize that crew bunk pretty heavily; better get good mattresses in there!
What kind of plane are they flying?
Are passengers ok with this? 20 hours...I might actually want a layover to stretch my legs and get away from cabin air.
A 787-9 is the aircraft being used. 50 people will be on board.
Singapore Airlines already flys a 19 hour flight. Singapore Newark.
Actually impressive they have planes with that kind of range. I am guessing they will utilize that crew bunk pretty heavily; better get good mattresses in there!
What kind of plane are they flying?
Are passengers ok with this? 20 hours...I might actually want a layover to stretch my legs and get away from cabin air.
I'd like to stretch my legs, too.
But stretching my legs isn't even remotely worth it to me for the extra time/hassle required. New York is a megalopolis. People who have the flying experience aren't going to want to add another hour of flight time (the minimum requirement for another descent/climb-out if the layover happens to be on the path between origin and destination), plus de-boarding and re-boarding (experiences always enjoyed by all!) and however much time is spent enjoying the ambiance of an airport terminal.
Greater Sydney has over five million people. This non-stop may not be for everyone, but they'll be able to find enough business people (and probably a few tourists) to fill the aircraft.
That sounds painful. I've done a near 18 hour flight, Mumbai to Newark; it is normally a 16+ hr flight, but the flight I took ended up being close to 18 hours. That was terrible. Honestly, 2 more hours wouldn't be much more terrible.
Due to the sheer distance and time it takes to get to Australia from the east coast, however, I'd probably opt for the nonstop just to cut down on travel time and get more time in country.
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I do the 18 hr Non-Stop, LAX or SFO > SIN. (in economy) Ouch
Much preferred by me over previous transfers in NAR or HGK.
Leave SFO at 10PM, arrive 7AM 2 days later, just in time to enjoy the day or go straight to work.
Can return SIN>SFO 10AM or 10PM ((arrive same day / same time), just in time to go straight to work, or straight to bed (if you don't sleep well on planes).
Qantas actually flies more people to LAX from Melbourne than Sydney. The reason is simply there is a five-way competition from SYD-LAX with Qantas, Virgin Blue, United, Delta, and American. There is a three-way competition from MEL-LAX with Qantas, Virgin Blue and United. There is a two-way competition from BNE-LAX with Qantas, and Virgin Blue.
Right now all three Qantas flights from SYD, MEL and BNE to LAX land at about the same time. The BNE 787-9 continues on to JFK with passengers from the other two flights. Such a flight is legal because you cannot purchase a LAX-JFK segment only, you must be transferred from the other two Australia flights.
With a nonstop from Sydney there is unlikely to be enough people from Melbourne and Brisbane to fill such a jet. Presumably the JFK bound people from Melbourne and Brisbane will fly domestic in Australia and board the jet in Sydney.
MEL-SYD 439 mi and BNE-SYD 467 miles
Qantas may want to add a nonstop to JFK from Melbourne as well as Sydney (at least once a week)
SYD JFK 9,950 mi
MEL JFK 10,374 mi
Right now you can fly from Melbourne to London via Perth on a 787-9
MEL PER 1,681 mi +
PER LHR 9,009 mi = 10,691 mi
Qantas hopes to be able to fly to London nonstop by 2022
MEL LHR 10,503 mi
SYD LHR 10,573 mi
It was reported here that they are looking at having an exercise area in economy. Looking closely at whether the crew will be able to get enough quality rest.
We were talking about these long flights last night. We thought we would prefer a stopover going to London. Singapore airport is a great airport and a couple of hours there is very pleasant. But for New York, perhaps I would suffer the non stop. Without being rude, American airports are not nearly as pleasant as ones like Singapore.
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