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BRIDGEPORT, Conn. – Pete Rose stood behind the batting cage Monday, joking as former major leaguer Joe Mather hit ball after ball to center field during batting practice for the Bridgeport Bluefish.
"I asked him, `What are you working on, a sacrifice fly?"' Rose said.
BRIDGEPORT, Conn. – Pete Rose stood behind the batting cage Monday, joking as former major leaguer Joe Mather hit ball after ball to center field during batting practice for the Bridgeport Bluefish.
"I asked him, `What are you working on, a sacrifice fly?"' Rose said.
Good for him. Now lets hope they have him inducted into the Hall of Fame. Personally, I think that whole "Ban Pete Rose from baseball" stuff was a bad idea. So what if he was gambling? We had baseball players trading cocaine at one point in the 80s.
It's bad enough that his POS son is managing low-A ball in the South Atlantic League. Baseball would be much better off if the Rose family realized it had worn out its welcome long ago.
Good for him. Now lets hope they have him inducted into the Hall of Fame. Personally, I think that whole "Ban Pete Rose from baseball" stuff was a bad idea. So what if he was gambling? We had baseball players trading cocaine at one point in the 80s.
The "so what" is that MLB had an ironclad rule regarding gambling with the penalty for violating it spelled out in unambiguous terms....gamble and it is a lifetime ban. There is language in the basic contract which makes this clear, the contract that Rose signed. There are billboards posted in every ML clubhouse reminding players of the prohibition against gambling on baseball, and each spring, a represenative from the commissioner's office visits each team's camp, calls the players to a meeting, and reminds them of the consequences of gambling.
Pete Rose decided that he was above all that. Pete Rose decided that he could violate the rules and get away with it. When caught, Pete Rose not only spent ten years lying to the public, which includes you, but he also attacked the character and questioned the integrity of those who conducted the investigation. And when Pete Rose finally came clean, it was to try and make money selling a book.
That is the "so what." That other ballplayers have behaved badly does nothing to rehabilitate Rose.
What I do not get is why anyone would wish to champion someone who lied to them for so long.
I get that baseball has a "death penalty" for gambling, but if you think that PED use or use of illicit drugs don't affect the integrity or the image of the game you're BSing yourself. Dirtbags like McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, Bonds, Strawberry, and Gooden belong on the same island with Rose.
I get that baseball has a "death penalty" for gambling, but if you think that PED use or use of illicit drugs don't affect the integrity or the image of the game you're BSing yourself. Dirtbags like McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, Bonds, Strawberry, and Gooden belong on the same island with Rose.
A) Who here has even hinted that they think anything like that? At whom is your "but if you think" supposed to be directed? I am all in favor keeping the PEDs boys out of the HoF and I wish that there was a practical way to wipe their numbers from the record books. What does that have to do with Pete Rose?
B) The issue before us is Pete Rose and his violation of the MLB gambling ban. That you can identify other players who also were behavioral problems in other areas has nothing at all to do with Pete and his gambling. What sort of logic are you employing? That we cannot punish any criminals because we have not punished every criminal? That because one bad actor got away with his malfeasance, we are now required to overlook the misdeeds of everyone?
A) Who here has even hinted that they think anything like that? At whom is your "but if you think" supposed to be directed? I am all in favor keeping the PEDs boys out of the HoF and I wish that there was a practical way to wipe their numbers from the record books. What does that have to do with Pete Rose?
B) The issue before us is Pete Rose and his violation of the MLB gambling ban. That you can identify other players who also were behavioral problems in other areas has nothing at all to do with Pete and his gambling. What sort of logic are you employing? That we cannot punish any criminals because we have not punished every criminal? That because one bad actor got away with his malfeasance, we are now required to overlook the misdeeds of everyone?
My point is that Rose has been completely banned from baseball for gambling. He can't do anything related to major league baseball, yet cheats and druggies like the ones I mentioned, while pariahs, can still be associated with the game. The offenses that the guys I mentioned committed should also be grounds for a lifetime ban.
My point is that Rose has been completely banned from baseball for gambling. He can't do anything related to major league baseball, yet cheats and druggies like the ones I mentioned, while pariahs, can still be associated with the game. The offenses that the guys I mentioned committed should also be grounds for a lifetime ban.
Fair enough, I was reading more of a defense of Rose in your post then you intended. Mea culpa.
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Despite what he did I had to feel sorry for the guy about 3 years ago when I saw him with a table at the Mirage in Las Vegas trying to sell autographs. People were ignoring him like the plague. I would guess that many of the younger people didn't even know who he is. He probably thought casino customers would understand his gambling. Apparently it didn't work.
I grew up in Ohio during the early 70's days of "The Big Red Machine" watching the likes of a great ball team we haven't seen since. I'm not saying Rose should be reinstated after what he did, but no one can deny that he was a great ball player and earned his stat's record for which no one can take away and he will always have fans from that era regardless of his permanent ban from baseball.
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