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Old 07-15-2013, 06:14 PM
 
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Dwight's work ethic, toughness, and maturity are definitely suspect. But these are the real reasons why Dwight didn't re-sign.
The Lakers are staring at a massive rebuild and who knows how soon and to want extent Kobe will ever return etc.

I think that's the bottom line.

Dwight is a really convenient excuse for a Laker team that has had Kobe go back to chucker-ball while the rest of the squad stands around and ages.
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Old 07-15-2013, 06:16 PM
 
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The real truth Dwight left LA is because Dwight was intimidated by Kobe Bryant's work ethic, mental toughness and ability to play with pain. Dwight is a very good basketball player because of his God given physical tools, not because he is a gym rat who works hard at his craft.

With Kobe around, Dwight knew Kobe would be watching him and expecting him to work just as hard as Kobe works and Dwight wanted nothing to do with having Kobe evaluate his work ethic everytime he walked on the court. Dwight will never have the mental toughness nor the work ethic Kobe has, so there was no way he was going to stay in LA and play along side Kobe Bryant. Dwight will never be a champion!! I predict the Lakers will win another championship before Dwight ever does, if he ever does.


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Old 07-16-2013, 08:10 AM
 
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OK what I wrote was just a few of many reasons. But I do stand by what I said, he was intimidated by Kobe Bryant's work ethic and mental toughness, and he knew he wouldn't measure up in any comparisons to Kobe's work ethic, so he bailed.

I am a Laker fan and I actually look forward to the rebuilding process.
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:03 PM
 
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OK what I wrote was just a few of many reasons. But I do stand by what I said, he was intimidated by Kobe Bryant's work ethic and mental toughness, and he knew he wouldn't measure up in any comparisons to Kobe's work ethic, so he bailed.

I am a Laker fan and I actually look forward to the rebuilding process.
Nah, Kobe's an as-shole. I'm a Lakers fan too, and I can understand why Dwight wouldn't want to play with (and I say that loosely) Kobe.
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:29 PM
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Check out First Take with SAS, Bayless, and some guy named Nelly. This guy was saying that no top players/free agents in their prime want to play with Kobe anymore...i have to agree...pretty funny arguments all over..surprisingly, Skip was kinda quiet...lol...they talked about Howard not wanting to play with Kobe too..

WARNING: IF YOU'RE A KOBE FAN...THE VIDEO COULD BE DISTURBING!!


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Old 07-17-2013, 10:20 AM
 
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Kobe may be a A-hole, but he puts in the work like no other. And Dwight just doesn't want to work as hard as Kobe, and he surely didn't want to get called on it.

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Nah, Kobe's an as-shole. I'm a Lakers fan too, and I can understand why Dwight wouldn't want to play with (and I say that loosely) Kobe.
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:35 PM
 
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Kobe may be a A-hole, but he puts in the work like no other. And Dwight just doesn't want to work as hard as Kobe, and he surely didn't want to get called on it.
Nah, not everyone likes to play with a-holes, especially when the Lakers are far from being able to compete for a championship.
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Old 07-17-2013, 02:42 PM
 
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Nah, not everyone likes to play with a-holes, especially when the Lakers are far from being able to compete for a championship.
not many people like to play with those types even when they ARE competing for a title. they just put up with it as much as they can. how many guys has kobe run or nearly run out of town?
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:02 PM
 
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Nah, not everyone likes to play with a-holes, especially when the Lakers are far from being able to compete for a championship.
I actually think the Lakers will be better record wise then they were last year with Dwight. I know they wont compete for a championship, but they will have more wins. It all comes down to if they stay healthy which I know is a big if.

I think with Dwight leaving is a perfect case of addition by subtraction. I will never forget him being ejected last year in the last playoff game. Dwight may not be a loser as he recently said of himself, but he does not have what it takes to be a CHAMPION.
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:04 PM
 
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The real truth Dwight left LA is because Dwight was intimidated by Kobe Bryant's work ethic, mental toughness and ability to play with pain. Dwight is a very good basketball player because of his God given physical tools, not because he is a gym rat who works hard at his craft.

With Kobe around, Dwight knew Kobe would be watching him and expecting him to work just as hard as Kobe works and Dwight wanted nothing to do with having Kobe evaluate his work ethic everytime he walked on the court. Dwight will never have the mental toughness nor the work ethic Kobe has, so there was no way he was going to stay in LA and play along side Kobe Bryant. Dwight will never be a champion!! I predict the Lakers will win another championship before Dwight ever does, if he ever does.
Interesting perspective.

I think it was difficult for Howard to play his best because of the back surgery he was recovering from. This really limited his effectiveness. Expectations were too high for him when he went to LA, and he was doomed before he got started. In LA, he was expected to make an impact and instantly elevate that team to championship caliber. Anything less would be a disappointment, and it was less.

I think on a more fundamental level, Howard is just not that good. He's not versatile enough as a player to thrive and dominate no matter what system he's playing on. He's athletic, sure. He's strong. He can jump when healthy. He can block shots, rebound. He smiles a lot, loves to have fun and be jovial. He seems to genuinely enjoy the game and his role in it. I just don't think he's talented enough to take a team to the title. The Lakers had a host of problems last year. I respect Kobe's game, work ethic, and drive. I don't think Howard liked Kobe because of previous encounters they've had while playing when Howard was with Orlando. I think Howard just wanted out of Orlando and LA was a good place to layover temporarily while his back healed. He had no desire to stay in LA long-term to help that team make a run at the title. Steve Nash could sense this.

Time will tell though what Dwight is capable of. I hope he finds a way to elevate and expand his game. He needs to learn how to shoot. He has no outside shot, not even from short-range. He's a lousy free throw shooter. Not a good passer. We've never seen him do a no-look pass. He has a very limited number of offensive moves while in the paint. He's foul-prone and can be fooled by clever defensive rotations. His game lacks creativity and he's quite predictable. So on and so forth.

I'm looking forward to watching what he can do while at Houston. I'm also looking forward to seeing what the Lakers can do without Howard and Artest. It will be an interesting season next year.

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