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So you think the only things that people buy at the big box stores are things they don't really want? What about the fact that instead of going to the local store and paying $10 for an item, they can go to Target and buy the exact same thing for $7?
Yeah I guess people are "slaves" to buy food and toilet paper and clothes and all those other frivolous things that they did without before the big stores came in And I guess we should all just go back to growing our own food and making our own clothes, instead of mindlessly shopping for things we don't really need just to make everything right in the world.
Agreed. The bashing of anything "new" is ridiculous.
Don't forget what happens to that extra $ that people now have due to prices being being lower.
They are able to spend that money on additional things from other businesses (further stimulating the local economy).
Still waiting for anyone to rebut this point I made the other day, which none of the Walmart bashers want to discuss.
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And the point is, in Hilo, those retail mom-and-pop stores DO use subsidies like food stamps, etc. to help them with their business plan - not a single bit different than Walmart is being accused of doing, except that Walmart, in Hilo, pays employees more per hour than those little stores do (or did).
So you think the only things that people buy at the big box stores are things they don't really want? What about the fact that instead of going to the local store and paying $10 for an item, they can go to Target and buy the exact same thing for $7?
Yeah I guess people are "slaves" to buy food and toilet paper and clothes and all those other frivolous things that they did without before the big stores came in And I guess we should all just go back to growing our own food and making our own clothes, instead of mindlessly shopping for things we don't really need just to make everything right in the world.
Sure your can be kolohe argumentive because thats not what i said. Or be honest and look at the facts that the average household credit card debt stands at $15,607. Thats alot of Tolet paper and canned foods to be buying auntie.
Marketing and advertisement also tells us we are missing out if we don't have an Apple store or Macys etc. Understand?
pppsssssstttttttttt............................... .... (don't tell anybody, but I don't own a cel phone)
(or a friggin I-Pad)
I think I may be breaking some law
Uuuurrrrpppp
Eh who need stinking Iphones and Ipads when you can get your surfskie out and enjoy the ocean?
But who am i to suggest taking others drugs away?
pppssssssssttttttt............ I no tell anyone how awsome it is to be out there with the waves and nature. If people knew how much of a better high it is, it wouldn't be an enjoyable experience. Jeeezzzzzz mainlanders try figure eh?
Agreed. The bashing of anything "new" is ridiculous.
Don't forget what happens to that extra $ that people now have due to prices being being lower.
They are able to spend that money on additional things from other businesses (further stimulating the local economy).
Still waiting for anyone to rebut this point I made the other day, which none of the Walmart bashers want to discuss.
Another words i have more empathy for a struggling small business to use the public welfare system to compensate for a low paying wage then Wallmart who after using the system clears billions in profit. Wallmart is ablebodied to pay there employees a liveable wage. Alot of ma & pas are not able. But do end up paying higher wages based on profit margins.
Another words i have more empathy for a struggling small business to use the public welfare system to compensate for a low paying wage then Wallmart who after using the system clears billions in profit. Wallmart is ablebodied to pay there employees a liveable wage. Alot of ma & pas are not able. But do end up paying higher wages based on profit margins.
No, you didn't answer the question. You danced around it. You also mentioned some small business owners might only make $1 or 2 million in profit. Could those small business owners not "afford" to pay a living wage to their employees and give them more than 19 hours? If that small business owner cannot open their store and pay a living wage, then maybe they shouldn't be opening it and hiring employees at slave wages, forcing their employees to get food stamps, etc.?
Eh who need stinking Iphones and Ipads when you can get your surfskie out and enjoy the ocean?
But who am i to suggest taking others drugs away?
pppssssssssttttttt............ I no tell anyone how awsome it is to be out there with the waves and nature. If people knew how much of a better high it is, it wouldn't be an enjoyable experience. Jeeezzzzzz mainlanders try figure eh?
Folks still have to purchase surf skis, paddle boards, surfboards, etc. from someplace and some of the "big box" retailers offer pretty good deals on beginner models. For example, here's an 8' Taiwanese-manufactured, "Wavestorm" surfboard that sells at Costco for $179. http://www.costco.com/Wave-Storm-8&#...100098389.html
Folks still have to purchase surf skis, paddle boards, surfboards, etc. from someplace and some of the "big box" retailers offer pretty good deals on beginner models. For example, here's an 8' Taiwanese-manufactured, "Wavestorm" surfboard that sells at Costco for $179. http://www.costco.com/Wave-Storm-8&#...100098389.html
I can imagine any opinion i express other then the popular, consumer or profit first or rich preceptions on CDF Hawaii will get me in alot of stink on this forum. Despite the fact that most in Hawaii just want things not to change and want to maintain the simple, aloha lifestyles they known growing up.
Im done, sorry you felt i was suggesting taking away a vice.
Still waiting for anyone to rebut this point I made the other day, which none of the Walmart bashers want to discuss.
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And the point is, in Hilo, those retail mom-and-pop stores DO use subsidies like food stamps, etc. to help them with their business plan - not a single bit different than Walmart is being accused of doing, except that Walmart, in Hilo, pays employees more per hour than those little stores do (or did).
There is nothing to rebut, because it's just an opinion. You didn't offer any evidence at all to support your opinion.
What you are missing in all this is that Walmart is very well documented to be screwing their employees, and depending on Corporate Welfare as part of their business plan. It's not even open for debate, because there is so much evidence that it's true, including Walmart management admitting that it's true, but saying there is nothing wrong with it. They even have people on staff who advise employees on HOW to get SNAP, and other public assistance. (Note: SNAP replaced Food Stamps in 2008.)
Arguing against that proven fact is just arguing to be contrary.
No, you didn't answer the question. You danced around it. You also mentioned some small business owners might only make $1 or 2 million in profit. Could those small business owners not "afford" to pay a living wage to their employees and give them more than 19 hours? If that small business owner cannot open their store and pay a living wage, then maybe they shouldn't be opening it and hiring employees at slave wages, forcing their employees to get food stamps, etc.?
Typical freedoms and liberties only to those who can afford it mentality. You forget with power comes responsibilities. If walmart whats to be the retail corporation of our country, then they should be thinking of the welbeing of our country and not their pockets and shareholders.
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And I guess we should all just go back to growing our own food and making our own clothes, instead of mindlessly shopping for things we don't really need just to make everything right in the world.
. Or be honest and look at the facts that the average household credit card debt stands at $15,607. Thats alot of Tolet paper and canned foods to be buying auntie.
