No safe place (Pahoa: gated community, living in, fence)

[leilaniguy]

Already have the house and just put a new roof on it. I've lived in Nanawale before, not that bad. Besides Pahoa is home, even with all the warts. The two old guys involved were going at it for several months now and both of them were full of it, I don't think anybody took them seriously enough.

[hotzcatz]

Yeah, I've lived in Nanawale before, too. It's not too bad although the lots are small. Doesn't have much of a view from most of the lots, though. They do have a nice swimming pool there, just wish they would have made the lots larger, half acre lots would have really made that a much nicer sub.

Did all the albizia get knocked over during the hurricane? I've not gone in there since then.

It's a pity the two old guys got all whacko. Now one's dead and the other is not going to be much better.

[leilaniguy]

The house sits on two lots on a corner with rockwalls on two sides and the closest house is two more lots away and no other nearby houses (now). It's way in the back corner behind Lava Tree. A lot of the Alibizias got knocked down, but just like that song, "I get back up again, you never gonna keep me down". All the broken off one are growing like mad, and since I last lived there back in 1990, there are so very many more big ones, especially on Hapu'u Road that now looks like the tree tunnel and there were NONE when I lived there. Hopefully the guy that did the shooting will be able to bail out, he is 72 and has been here since the early 70's, lived most of his life in Kapoho. He would never admit it but I'm sure he was in fear for his life, the guy he shot was "nuckin futz" and 16 years younger.

[HPP_Since_79]

Folks that aren't good being close to others usually have a tendency to gravitate out to rural areas

I think you nailed it here, there is a % of very anti-social (paranoid, agressive, etc) people amongst the 'colorful' types attracted to lower Puna....even the peaceful friendly ones are often extreme social drama magnets

[leilaniguy]

Like the bumper stickers and t shirts say; "We're all here because we're not all there"

[hotzcatz]

That's a great bumper sticker for Puna!

Puna has become a lot more 'gentrified' over the past several decades. Give it another couple more and it may not be indistinguishable from Hilo. Although, by that time, Hilo will have grown, too. At least the rate of growth has slowed down from the crazy building of the early 2000's.

What makes an area 'safe' and how can it be spread around? Obviously gates don't work to make a place safe. Tight communities? Smaller lots were everyone can see what's going on? Some sort of communal reason for the community so they interact with each other in a pleasant fashion?

[838454]

Leilaniguy, have you decided what area you want to move to?

[leilaniguy]

Nanawale....

[hotzcatz]

Why did you choose Nanawale over Leilani? You'd been in Leilani for years, hadn't you? I'd think maybe Beaches or Shores might be nice, but then again what with some folks' misbehaviour, maybe not.

[leilaniguy]

I already have the house in Nanawale. My place in Leilani was at the top, in the deep rainforest and the Ohia trees are dying. It was getting to be hazardous just living there. The house itself had termites, bad termites that I found one day by putting a ladder on one of the 4 x 12 beams in the living room and hearing that sickening "crunch". I checked the other beams and they were just as bad. The house itself was redwood and cedar, but the framing was Doug Fir. It was time to let somebody else deal with it. I was there over 15 years.