03-14-2012, 02:12 AM
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Hello All,
Please tell me your thoughts on Liberty Park, Forest Park, Redmont Park,Greystone, Highland Lakes,Shook Hill, Mountain Brook.
I was born and raised right here in Birmingham, Alabama (Irondale area)
I have been away from home due to being in the Air Force, and now that I am moving back with a family of my own I have noticed a lot of things have changed.
I now want a community that is very family friendly...when I say this I mean activity wise. For example, when I was in Arizona the community I lived in there was very busy. Saturday Morning it began at 10am with children's t-ball, then the older kids little league. Then the wives had their softball game, and then men finished up with ours. A total day of family fun. This was with all sports from football, soccer, Basketball, you name it...Children always out and about playing like kids should and not always in front of the PlayStation or XBOX. On the weekends the entire family had activities.
I have grown used to those types of things and I really want that for my family. Community cookouts, festivals, block parties all of it would be great. We have really considered Mountain Brook but have heard and read a lot of mixed ratings about the area. When I grew up in Irondale, the kids from Mountain Brook were very snobbish and all had their cliques.
We also don't want our children growing up thinking money is everything, and that they have to dress a certain way or shop a Saks etc.
Like I said i'm from here and know all about the "tiny kingdom" I just wanted to know if it is more diverse yet? Are there any other ethnic groups in the area now, as my family is of black heritage.
We are used to being the only blacks in areas and that is not a problem. My wife and I just wanted to know if it frowned upon that blacks would live in Mountain Brook. We are not super rich like most in the area, but we can certain;y afford to be there.
It's just that when I left everyone was working hard to be in that area or to stay in that area. Also I really did not want to live off of 280 because the area traffic was always and is always a mess whenever I come through.
I really thank you for your help and will continue to comb through the forum as I have found one thread about Mountain Brook....
Thanks ever so much...
03-14-2012, 02:45 AM
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Almost forgot...if anyone has anything to say about why the real estate agents keep pushing golf course living? I do not wish to live on a golf course I would like some land for children to play. I was just curious as to if it may be a good investment or are a lot of people running from it and that is why they are pushing it so hard...
Thanks again...
03-14-2012, 06:49 AM
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Almost forgot...if anyone has anything to say about why the real estate agents keep pushing golf course living? I do not wish to live on a golf course I would like some land for children to play. I was just curious as to if it may be a good investment or are a lot of people running from it and that is why they are pushing it so hard...
Thanks again...
If it is not what you want - let them push.
GreyStone - I am guessing that you are looking at The Farms/Glen ...not the 7-figure properties. HOA has taken controll of Big GS, The Farms and The Glen not to mention that mayor road repairs are on the horizon which will bring a special assessment. The schools are great!
03-14-2012, 04:20 PM
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To me, the central question is where you'll be working.
For most commuting, I think Liberty Park is an excellent choice. Vestavia School systems (I think it covers the entirety of Liberty Park, but double check to be sure). It's a quiet part of town, but pretty close to lots of amenities. And if you commute downtown, driving up Overton Road is a far cry better than slogging all the way in on 280. To be sure, you'd spend some time on 280, but not nearly as much. And prices are not outrageous.
On the other If you live in Highland Park, Greystone, and places out there, then you'll need to really have some good books on tape. LOTS of commuting time.
Forest Park on Southside is my personal favorite. It's graceful and convenient to every place in town and is a five minute commute to downtown. Plus there's a little bit of everybody there. The chief problem is the public school system. We lived in Southside for 14 years and used private schools for a while, but finally hurdled Red Mountain when we began looking at the tuition for Altamont or John Carroll.
Hope that helps.
03-14-2012, 10:29 PM
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Thanks Threestep
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If it is not what you want - let them push.
GreyStone - I am guessing that you are looking at The Farms/Glen ...not the 7-figure properties. HOA has taken controll of Big GS, The Farms and The Glen not to mention that mayor road repairs are on the horizon which will bring a special assessment. The schools are great!
Thanks Threestep for your info... 7 Figure homes are not a problem...we are actually looking for something like that and with at least 2 or 3 acres of land.
Road work huh...would you happen to know the areas? Is it just 280 road work?
03-14-2012, 10:37 PM
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Thank you CPG
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To me, the central question is where you'll be working.
For most commuting, I think Liberty Park is an excellent choice. Vestavia School systems (I think it covers the entirety of Liberty Park, but double check to be sure). It's a quiet part of town, but pretty close to lots of amenities. And if you commute downtown, driving up Overton Road is a far cry better than slogging all the way in on 280. To be sure, you'd spend some time on 280, but not nearly as much. And prices are not outrageous.
On the other If you live in Highland Park, Greystone, and places out there, then you'll need to really have some good books on tape. LOTS of commuting time.
Forest Park on Southside is my personal favorite. It's graceful and convenient to every place in town and is a five minute commute to downtown. Plus there's a little bit of everybody there. The chief problem is the public school system. We lived in Southside for 14 years and used private schools for a while, but finally hurdled Red Mountain when we began looking at the tuition for Altamont or John Carroll.
Hope that helps.
I like the Highland Park area as well, used to live in Highland Tower in 2000
Loved the parks in the area, we noticed the dog park is no longer a true dog park. Now the dogs have to be on a leash which is really crappy. Commute won't really be a problem as I work from home and only use Regus Offices when I have to hold a meeting and I noticed there are a few in town One right off of 280 and one in the Lakeshore area.
Liberty Park seems like it may be nice I will look at a some homes in that area....
Thanks so much for your help.... really appreciate the feedback.
03-15-2012, 06:39 AM
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Thanks Threestep for your info... 7 Figure homes are not a problem...we are actually looking for something like that and with at least 2 or 3 acres of land.
Road work huh...would you happen to know the areas? Is it just 280 road work?
For acerage you need to go further out. That basically eliminates the "established communities" from Greystone to Vestavia. Without an idea of your actual budget there is no way to direct your search.
280 is the main connection from Sylacauga to downtown. Greystone/Hugh Daniels intersection to The Summit will take you an hour from 6:30-9:00 :>)
03-15-2012, 07:22 AM
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An Hour????
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For acerage you need to go further out. That basically eliminates the "established communities" from Greystone to Vestavia. Without an idea of your actual budget there is no way to direct your search.
280 is the main connection from Sylacauga to downtown. Greystone/Hugh Daniels intersection to The Summit will take you an hour from 6:30-9:00 :>)
Wow that is a little lore than I would like to ride in a car just for an outing. I did not think 280 was really that bad. Thanks for the heads up.
I wanted about a minimum of 3-4 acres, and wanted to spend no more than 1.9 mil. I did find a couple in an area called Shook Hill ... Shook Hill Circle to be exact. If I am not mistake I think that still falls into the Mt. Brook area but seems to be a lot of older people in the area did not see too many kids. If that is my best option we will just have to get the children out and involved with recreations centers and such in the area instead of the neighborhood?
What do you think of Shook Hill??? Ok Area???
03-15-2012, 07:29 AM
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There are always league sports that can be found for the kids. I don't have specific knowledge of Mt. Brook, but something tells me that league sports might not be as big of a deal there as in other areas. But I could be totally wrong about that. As for adult leagues, they seem to mainly be church leagues. So that is something to consider.
As for Shook Hill Circle, there are some beautiful houses in there. Corporate CEO's, etc. It is not gated, but is quite exclusive. It is definitely Mt. Brook.
03-15-2012, 07:40 AM
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Thanks jakabedy
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There are always league sports that can be found for the kids. I don't have specific knowledge of Mt. Brook, but something tells me that league sports might not be as big of a deal there as in other areas. But I could be totally wrong about that. As for adult leagues, they seem to mainly be church leagues. So that is something to consider.
As for Shook Hill Circle, there are some beautiful houses in there. Corporate CEO's, etc. It is not gated, but is quite exclusive. It is definitely Mt. Brook.
Church leagues are great would be right up my alley!
As I did searches in Mt. Brook for teams in such did not find too much. But I may have looked in the wrong area.
So Shook Hill is Mt. Brook...Thanks for that info it was hard to figure out just looking at the map.
I like the homes, and I like the area seems quiet and peaceful. Thanks so much for your input. Right now Shook Hill is top of our list.
Unless we really find something that is super family friendly where the homes are not the cookie cutter style (all look alike) and there is enough yard to hit the baseball around or not be able touch your neighbors house from your window and such...
Thanks again
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Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)