11-03-2012, 02:26 PM
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If I were moving to Birmingham, Alabama, and had a budget of 350K for a home, and a very smart child about to enter high school (who also loves the arts and eclectic classes that go beyond the mandated math, history, science etc), and had a liberal political viewpoint and loved old homes.....which neighborhood should I pick? Help me, help me...don't know where to begin the search! FYI, the right school is my highest priority, prefer public, but will do private if have to, and can go beyond 350K if it "buys" me the right school. Thanks!
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11-03-2012, 06:05 PM
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Oh my . . . paging CPG!!!
11-03-2012, 06:18 PM
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I'll just say right off that there is no perfect choice, only good ones.
First choice? Southside/Forest Park and Altamont (Private School). Cool older neighborhood with a variety of political viewpoints. However, Altamont is not as strong in the arts. A little more house for your money:
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Second choice? Mountain Brook. Superior public school. Outside of a sizable Jewish community, however, the school system is not very diverse and MB is pretty conservative. Very, very good arts programs.
Third choice? Homewood. More diverse. While the schools are good, they're a notch below Mountain Brook. Good arts programs
As Penn noted, another option is the IB school which is exceptional. Don't know about the arts programs. And, if your child really wants to focus on an art-driven curriculum yet another possibility is the Alabama School of Fine Arts, which is one of the best in the country.
Here are some other questions for you:
In what part of town will you be working?
What activities do you enjoy the most?
11-04-2012, 10:53 AM
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I was thinking that ALtamont looked promising, though I much prefer a public school. Anyone know if it is hard to get in there at the older grades? Had not looked at Homewood, so thanks for that suggestion. I noticed IB programs at two high schools, but it appeared the curriculum only kicked in at Junior year? Kids went to an IB elementary, so IB would be great.
11-04-2012, 11:00 AM
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Forgot to add we also are looking for a progressive church that is active in social issues and accepting of gay/lesbian etc. with strong youth programs...currently attend an indepentant Baptist church, but open to any protestant or nondenominational. Thanks!
11-04-2012, 11:04 AM
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I'll second CPG35223's advice to check out the Alabama School of Fine Arts it's a public magnet school with a top-notch arts program and a diverse liberal atmosphere. He's also spot on concerning Forest Park/South Avondale/Southside being a first choice neighborhood. Sounds like a great fit for you.
I say this as a completely neutral Highland Park resident and ASFA grad.
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11-04-2012, 11:14 AM
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Forgot to add we also are looking for a progressive church that is active in social issues and accepting of gay/lesbian etc. with strong youth programs...currently attend an indepentant Baptist church, but open to any protestant or nondenominational. Thanks!
I'm thinking that Southside/Forest Park would be the first place I'd want to look based on your criteria. That means, however, putting your kids into Altamont which is private. We lived in the Forest Park section of Southside for years and loved it, but moved when faced with putting three kids through private high school. So we moved to Mountain Brook. While we made the right choice financially and from a lifestyle perspective, I do wish it weren't so lily-white here.
The second alternative to me would be Homewood. It's an excellent school system.
Mountain Brook is the best public system in the state, but the area is pretty homogenous. It's very beautiful, but you need to understand that.
All three would mean a superior education for your children. I think what your next step should be is just touring around those areas with a good realtor and checking out the schools online.
11-04-2012, 12:30 PM
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Thanks to all for the suggestions! You have given me a starting point, which is what I needed. The Alabama School of Fine Arts was not on my radar screen, and you confirmed my initial impression that the Southside/Forest Park neighborhood and Altamont might be worth checking out. Any possible churches? We will sorely miss our current church...
11-04-2012, 12:47 PM
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sati08 - why would you want to leave your liberal utopia and move to Birmingham?
11-04-2012, 12:52 PM
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sati08 - why would you want to leave your liberal utopia and move to Birmingham?
Reactionary, can you ever simply answer a post without dragging politics into it? My political convictions are different than the poster in question (And probably pretty closely aligned to yours), but all the woman needs is advice, not sarcasm.
And, yes, one can keep up to four chickens in a Mountain Brook backyard as long as none of those are roosters.
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Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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