Whats the deal with Uber?? (Birmingham, York: salary, assess, office)

[ashpelham]

And all of the push for UBER and infighting by Yellow Cab is because our governments won't, and likely can't, make mass transit a funded priority. NOTICE, I said funded.

Thus, we have to find other ways to get ourselves around, besides a 500.00 per month car note on artificially held down wages.

[280Tony]

Tourian isn't anti-ride sharing. He's justifiably cautious of Uber (so am I). Do some research and you'll quickly be apprised at how insidious and brazen they've been with metros all around the world. They've circumvented laws, screwed people out of insurance coverage, and have staunchly refused to pay business fees that are standard for all other commercial carriers in a given city. Uber provides a WONDERFUL service, but has not played by the rules in setting up shop and in many instances people have been hurt by their guile. It's a game-changing service run by sleezeballs. Their product is so good that most governments capitulate and allow them to operate, but there is a cost associated with doing so in 9 out of every 10 cities Uber operates in. They open up a lot of parties to a lot of liability, all in the name of cost reduction. How many yachts can you water ski behind? If Uber would simply do business the right way, this wouldn't be an issue. They'd take marginal profit hits and be the city darlings at the same time. But inexplicably, they are unwavering and uncompromising punks about it.

[steveklein]

Originally Posted by ashpelham

And all of the push for UBER and infighting by Yellow Cab is because our governments won't, and likely can't, make mass transit a funded priority. NOTICE, I said funded.

Thus, we have to find other ways to get ourselves around, besides a 500.00 per month car note on artificially held down wages.

How are wages "artificially held down"? People keep showing up to work to do the job for the given pay. It is supply and demand. If the supply of workers that can do a job exceeds the needed number of workers, then sorry.... but the wage is not artificial.

In reality, welfare programs and the minimum wage have actually increased wages to artificially HIGH places. And it won't be long before the people demanding $15 an hour to work the cashier at McDonald's find out how easily they are replaced by a computer that does a better job anyway.

[ashpelham]

Originally Posted by steveklein

How are wages "artificially held down"? People keep showing up to work to do the job for the given pay. It is supply and demand. If the supply of workers that can do a job exceeds the needed number of workers, then sorry.... but the wage is not artificial.

In reality, welfare programs and the minimum wage have actually increased wages to artificially HIGH places. And it won't be long before the people demanding $15 an hour to work the cashier at McDonald's find out how easily they are replaced by a computer that does a better job anyway.

Disagree with your assessment. You must work in HR for some local company. Wages are competitively and constructively held to a standard number. There is very little discrepancy between the wage at company a for job x, versus company b, for the same job, similar to all gas stations on the same exit charging the same price for a gallon of gas.

Anyone that denies it, to me anyway, is part and parcel to it being done. WAGES ARE HELD LOW for all but the top %. I will make the argument that there is a business purpose for it; a lot of jobs are a net expense for a company, not for revenue producers. Sky should be the limit for those folks, yet those grid comp rates changed very little in my industry in Birmingham between 1998 when I graduated from college, and today.

[Tourian]

Originally Posted by bhammaster

What "sucker deal"? How Birmingham hurt by having Uber?

Here is your answer. I could not have stated it better:

Originally Posted by 280Tony

Tourian isn't anti-ride sharing. He's justifiably cautious of Uber (so am I). Do some research and you'll quickly be apprised at how insidious and brazen they've been with metros all around the world. They've circumvented laws, screwed people out of insurance coverage, and have staunchly refused to pay business fees that are standard for all other commercial carriers in a given city. Uber provides a WONDERFUL service, but has not played by the rules in setting up shop and in many instances people have been hurt by their guile. It's a game-changing service run by sleezeballs. Their product is so good that most governments capitulate and allow them to operate, but there is a cost associated with doing so in 9 out of every 10 cities Uber operates in. They open up a lot of parties to a lot of liability, all in the name of cost reduction. How many yachts can you water ski behind? If Uber would simply do business the right way, this wouldn't be an issue. They'd take marginal profit hits and be the city darlings at the same time. But inexplicably, they are unwavering and uncompromising punks about it.

[bigstick]

Originally Posted by Tourian

Here is your answer. I could not have stated it better:

You better get it,,Atlanta is hosting the World Cup (Sold OUT) at the dome tonight huge event, and Atlanta traffic was at a standstill this afternoon even with our much better transportation than BHAM, BHAM is in serious trouble if you cant even get Lyft and Uber. It took me 2 hours to go 4 miles...I shudder to see the nightmare for your World Games.

[Tourian]

Originally Posted by ashpelham

Disagree with your assessment. You must work in HR for some local company. Wages are competitively and constructively held to a standard number. There is very little discrepancy between the wage at company a for job x, versus company b, for the same job, similar to all gas stations on the same exit charging the same price for a gallon of gas.

Anyone that denies it, to me anyway, is part and parcel to it being done. WAGES ARE HELD LOW for all but the top %. I will make the argument that there is a business purpose for it; a lot of jobs are a net expense for a company, not for revenue producers. Sky should be the limit for those folks, yet those grid comp rates changed very little in my industry in Birmingham between 1998 when I graduated from college, and today.

This is scary because I have had these same thoughts for time to time. The working class can be told they are "overqualified" or "their pay is maxed out for a certain position" or something along those lines. Doesn't matter if they excel at what they do or if they bring more to the table - the positions they get are capped. Meanwhile a CEO gets a golden parachute, big bonuses - even if the company they run goes down the toilet - plus they get a gold star on their resume to move on to the next top "job."

[politburo]

Just got back from Boston where I used Uber four separate times. It was a great experience, much better than the vast majority of cabs I've been in. The cars were on time and clean. The app allowed me to request and pay for the ride. No need for tipping, as the price was already agreed upon. It's a shame politics and special interests get in the way of consumers getting what they want.

[bigstick]

Originally Posted by politburo

Just got back from Boston where I used Uber four separate times. It was a great experience, much better than the vast majority of cabs I've been in. The cars were on time and clean. The app allowed me to request and pay for the ride. No need for tipping, as the price was already agreed upon. It's a shame politics and special interests get in the way of consumers getting what they want.

Lyft is better than Uber because of the ability to tip on the app, Uber is stingy for the drivers and rates are very low.

[FinlandNative]

I have used Uber 120+ times since its launch here in Baton Rouge.

I absolutely love it. **** Yellow Cab!