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Old 09-10-2013, 09:06 PM
 
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At most of my local libraries, they have places where they sell books. At some libraries it's in a separate room. Other libraries merely have a small section with two bookshelves near the front entrance. A while back, I was at a library where they have a section with two bookshelves. I took a whole bunch of books without paying for it. Some lady noticed this and, as I was leaving, she said to me, "Do you know you're supposed to pay for those books?"

"What?" I asked. "Do you work for the library?"

"I used to," she replied. "The library is selling those books. They aren't for free. If you're going to take them, I suggest you buy them."

"The citizens already pay for library books with their taxes. My taxes pay for libraries to operate, it pays the salary librarians have, and it pays the books libraries buy. Don't you think libraries have a lot of gall to expect the public to pay for books their taxes already paid for?"

She looked at me surprised. She couldn't say anything. She tried to stammer but nothing intelligible came out. I said, "Why don't you ponder what I said before getting high and mighty next time?" Then I turned on my heel and walked away.

Later on, I bought un-du, the library sticker remover. I was able to get rid of most of the library stickers without a problem. Then I tried selling them to a used bookstore. But they couldn't take half the books. The ones they couldn't take had stickers inside them saying, "Former property of Dallas County Library". The guy at the used bookstore said, "These are good books. They are in excellent shape. I can't take them with all these markings inside of them though. It completely ruins their value. If they were without the markings, I would have been able to give you about $60. But since I can only take half I can only give you $25."

What a waste!

Here's my thing: the U.S. gov't uses my tax money to pay for libraries. Even if I never set foot in one my taxes will be used for them. Then the gov't tries to sell these books back to the public. Don't you think the gov't has a lot of gall to try selling to the people books their taxes already paid for? Secondly, the books they sell are ruined with all the stickers and markings all over them. Why do they need all these stupid stickers and markings all over library books?

The U.S. gov't has the ability to send millions of troops from around the world to the Middle East with the proper food, shelter, medical supplies, and state of the art technology within a week. But they can't figure out a library system that doesn't involve ugly markings and stickers all over their books?

If they're going to sell books back to the public, they should at least sell books that have resale value.
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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You might want to read up on how local libraries are funded if you really think that they're raking in federal tax dollars.
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:35 PM
 
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You might want to read up on how local libraries are funded if you really think that they're raking in federal tax dollars.
You may wanna look up how libraries are funded. The are funded by citizens.

Public library - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:43 PM
 
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So you stole books, and now you're complaining that you couldn't sell them for profit?

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Why do they need all these stupid stickers and markings all over library books?
To keep people like you from ripping them off!
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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So you're admitting you're a thief and tried to sell stolen property.
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:23 AM
 
Location: WI
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i have no problem supporting a library thru one of their sales of old books/etc.... to me seems no different then buying various candy, mags, popcorn from school age kids for their band/team/group. Funding is down in many areas, and if we want the most that can be offered to us sometimes that means a little extra needs to be done regardless if the entity begins with tax dollars.
I would have acted differently then the OP, but that's just my .02
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Sweden
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Do you know that you can borrow the exact same books elsewhere in the library?
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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It doesn't matter who paid for a library's books, they still belong to the library.

If that library replaced all of it's computers with more modern machines and decided to auction off the old ones, should you have the right to just take a few of the old computers without paying for them? They were bought with tax money after all.
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:46 AM
 
Location: SE Michigan
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You may wanna look up how libraries are funded. The are funded by citizens.

Public library - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Did you actually read the link you posted?

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Private philanthropy has also had a significant role in the expansion and transformation of library services, and, like other educational institutions, some libraries may be partially funded by an endowment. Some proactive librarians have devised alliances with patron and civic groups to supplement their financial situations. Library "friends" groups, activist boards, and well organized book sales also supplement government funding. Public funding has always been an important part of the definition of a public library. However, with local governments facing financial pressures due to the Great Recession, some libraries have explored ways supplement public funding. Cafes, bakeries, bookstores, gift shops and similar commercial endeavors are common features of new and urban libraries. For example, the Boston Public Library has two restaurants and an online store which features reproductions of photographs and artwork.[16] Pressure on funding has also led to closer partnerships between libraries, and between libraries and for-profit ventures, in order to sustain the library as a public space while providing business opportunities to the community.[
Anyway, that's besides the point - that's like you stealing street signs, park benches, plants or trees from public spaces, someone's Bridge card or welfare check - all things all or in part paid for by taxes. Doesn't mean they're yours for the taking.
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Old 09-11-2013, 08:30 AM
 
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How am I stealing library books if my taxes already paid for them? It does mean they are mine for the taking.

chiroptera, your link says private philanthropy has a significant role in the expansion of libraries. It does not have the only role. Where do you think most of the money for library funding comes from? Gov't taxes. I don't know how anyone can refute this. I never said it was only gov't taxes. It is mainly gov't taxes that libraries live on.
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