Police expecting a rough summer ahead, in the city. (Boston: crime rates, affluent)

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by id77

And a blank line to write in anyone. Staying home all but ensures someone won’t be heard, and if they care about Boston half as much as you say, staying home and not voting was the last thing these people should be doing.

You lament that the defundie herd ruined the city, but the truth is the people of Boston willingly handed it to the defundie herd on a silver platter.

What you are saying is not incorrect. The city gets the leadership it deserves.

[id77]

Originally Posted by Mayei

I'm challenging your assertion that she represents most voters in Boston. She represents the plurality of 28.9% of Boston voters. There's no excuse for turnout being abysmal, but a relatively small percentage of Bostonians actually elected her Mayor.

Also, yes I did vote, though not for her. There were no perfect candidates but Wu is turning out to be exactly what I was afraid of.

That 71% who didn't vote may live in Boston, and they may think themselves Bostonians (perhaps even born and raised here), but if they can't be bothered to get off their a**es and vote in local elections, they forfeit their claim to be voters and complain they they don't like the elected leadership.

I challenge that the 28.9% are the real citizens/voters/Bostonians because they're the ones who care enough to be willing to participate. She represents a majority of them.

The 71% are just spectators as far as government is concerned.

[dazzleman]

Originally Posted by massnative71

What you are saying is not incorrect. The city gets the leadership it deserves.

In all the cases where these evil pro-criminal politicians like Lightfoot, Fox, Krasner, Boudin etc. have been elected, the people who voted for them are to blame. People get the government they deserve, and stupid, virtue-signaling morons deserve the suffer a bit for electing these dreadful people.

It is said that stupid people never learn from their mistakes, average intelligence people learn from their own mistakes, and smart people learn from the mistakes of others.

We saw last November that some people have at least learned from their own mistakes, as some places that had embraced idiotic ideas like defunding the police and elected pro-criminal prosecutors wised up and voted against these monstrosities.

We also saw that some people are still very stupid, and some are incapable of learning from the mistakes of others. Manhattan elected a pro-criminal DA who is going to turn the heart of New York City into a hellhole. If the voters there have even half a brain, they will throw him out in the next election, but in the interim they and a lot of people will suffer. And Boston elected a bad crowd that will most likely seriously damage one of the nicest cities in the US, just as the voters in San Francisco helped to destroy a once beautiful city.

It seems that every so often, people need to be reminded how bad these people are, and hopefully they will learn and keep these dreadful people out of power for a long time. We already went through that in the 1970s. Time will tell.

[WestieWhitie]

Originally Posted by dazzleman

In all the cases where these evil pro-criminal politicians like Lightfoot, Fox, Krasner, Boudin etc. have been elected, the people who voted for them are to blame. People get the government they deserve, and stupid, virtue-signaling morons deserve the suffer a bit for electing these dreadful people.

It is said that stupid people never learn from their mistakes, average intelligence people learn from their own mistakes, and smart people learn from the mistakes of others.

We saw last November that some people have at least learned from their own mistakes, as some places that had embraced idiotic ideas like defunding the police and elected pro-criminal prosecutors wised up and voted against these monstrosities.

We also saw that some people are still very stupid, and some are incapable of learning from the mistakes of others. Manhattan elected a pro-criminal DA who is going to turn the heart of New York City into a hellhole. If the voters there have even half a brain, they will throw him out in the next election, but in the interim they and a lot of people will suffer. And Boston elected a bad crowd that will most likely seriously damage one of the nicest cities in the US, just as the voters in San Francisco helped to destroy a once beautiful city.

It seems that every so often, people need to be reminded how bad these people are, and hopefully they will learn and keep these dreadful people out of power for a long time. We already went through that in the 1970s. Time will tell.

Crime in Boston is highly compartmentalized, meaning all the beaconbayport limousine liberal hearts get to bleed over the plight of the black community(tm) from the safety and comfort of their seven or eight figure condos while bashing law enforcement and making all sorts of excuses for crime and thuggery without ever coming in close contact with any of it. That attitude will change very quickly when all the shootings, stabbing, beatings, robberies and dope peddling migrate from what currently might as well in be a different galaxy right to their front door.

This isn’t Minneapolis or Portland, we are way too expensive to have a large population of fashionably radical aspiring semi-pro skateboarders in their late 20s who throw p*ss bottles at cops while people are being robbed and carjacked a block away that would keep the defundie insanity going as the city turns into a crime-ridden cesspool.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by dazzleman

In all the cases where these evil pro-criminal politicians like Lightfoot, Fox, Krasner, Boudin etc. have been elected, the people who voted for them are to blame. People get the government they deserve, and stupid, virtue-signaling morons deserve the suffer a bit for electing these dreadful people.

It is said that stupid people never learn from their mistakes, average intelligence people learn from their own mistakes, and smart people learn from the mistakes of others.

We saw last November that some people have at least learned from their own mistakes, as some places that had embraced idiotic ideas like defunding the police and elected pro-criminal prosecutors wised up and voted against these monstrosities.

We also saw that some people are still very stupid, and some are incapable of learning from the mistakes of others. Manhattan elected a pro-criminal DA who is going to turn the heart of New York City into a hellhole. If the voters there have even half a brain, they will throw him out in the next election, but in the interim they and a lot of people will suffer. And Boston elected a bad crowd that will most likely seriously damage one of the nicest cities in the US, just as the voters in San Francisco helped to destroy a once beautiful city.

It seems that every so often, people need to be reminded how bad these people are, and hopefully they will learn and keep these dreadful people out of power for a long time. We already went through that in the 1970s. Time will tell.

So all the people who didn't vote share no blame, nor those who pulled votes for other riff raff in the Preliminary election?

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by WestieWhitie

Crime in Boston is highly compartmentalized, meaning all the beaconbayport limousine liberal hearts get to bleed over the plight of the black community(tm) from the safety and comfort of their seven or eight figure condos while bashing law enforcement and making all sorts of excuses for crime and thuggery without ever coming in close contact with any of it. That attitude will change very quickly when all the shootings, stabbing, beatings, robberies and dope peddling migrate from what currently might as well in be a different galaxy right to their front door.

This isn’t Minneapolis or Portland, we are way too expensive to have a large population of fashionably radical aspiring semi-pro skateboarders in their late 20s who throw p*ss bottles at cops while people are being robbed and carjacked a block away that would keep the defundie insanity going as the city turns into a crime-ridden cesspool.

A lot of starry eyed transplants in Boston now, people totally lacking in historical perspective. Few of them were around during the bad late 80s/early 90s to experience what these policies can result in. A good number of them weren't even alive yet. They are going to be in for a ride, to say the least.

[WestieWhitie]

Originally Posted by massnative71

A lot of starry eyed transplants in Boston now, people totally lacking in historical perspective. Few of them were around during the bad late 80s/early 90s to see the experience what these policies can result in. A good number of them weren't even alive yet. They are going to be in for a ride, to say the least.

I highly doubt it will be a long ride - those very same starry-eyed transplants calling for cop heads on a stick right now will be the ones howling for tanks and summary executions the moment shots start popping off right outside their $4,500/month windows and they start getting guns shoved in their faces. Boston is simply too expensive to tolerate any thuggery outside of the usual designated areas in roxtappanchester.

[dazzleman]

Originally Posted by massnative71

So all the people who didn't vote share no blame, nor those who pulled votes for other riff raff in the Preliminary election?

They share blame too.

[AtkinsonDan]

Originally Posted by WestieWhitie

I highly doubt it will be a long ride - those very same starry-eyed transplants calling for cop heads on a stick right now will be the ones howling for tanks and summary executions the moment shots start popping off right outside their $4,500/month windows and they start getting guns shoved in their faces. Boston is simply too expensive to tolerate any thuggery outside of the usual designated areas in roxtappanchester.

^^^ That is a little tricky to pronounce. I suggest Doroxappan.

[MrDee12345]

This is taken from a post I made in another forum, but I think it'll give us some perspective here.

According to this article, Boston only had 39 murders as of Dec 20:

https://www.wbur.org/news/2021/12/23...-massachusetts

And it doesn't seem like there were any more murders after the 20th in 2021, at least according to Universal Hub: https://www.universalhub.com/crime/murder/2021

So if that's correct, that means that Boston's murder rate was 5.8/100,000 if we use the 2020 census to calculate our rate. That makes Boston slightly more dangerous than NYC (5.5/100,000), but below the national average for 2020, which was 6.6/100,000. That means as people brag about how safe Boston has gotten (that's true), it's still technically more dangerous than NYC, a city that some of you have written off. As it stands, Boston and NYC have murder rates BELOW THE NATIONAL AVERAGE, which is rare for any city.

For the entire state of Massachusetts? If we use the numbers up to Dec 20 (I'm sure there might have been one or two murders somewhere in the state after that and before the new year), we have 148 murders. The rate for the entire state is 2.1/100,000

In a sad point of comparison, Jackson MS (population 160,000) had two more murders than the entire state of Massachusetts (population approx 7 million). And I'll agree with many of you that the whole "defund the police" push is idiotic, many conservative southern states and cities have FAR higher murder rates despite having stricter laws.