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Old 10-20-2010, 06:50 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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but i highly doubt usage rates will see any kind of significant increase just because weed is legal, it will just make life a bit easier for those who already are consumers of the plant.
I agree with you, that consumption of pot won't change, because everybody (or almost everybody) who wants to smoke pot is already doing so.

However I predict a huge decrease in punctuation and capitalization as pot smokers turn freely to Internet forums and spout their opinions, and nevermind the rules of punctuation and capitalization.

If we allow free consumption of drugs, can those who support the rules of grammar not worry that the last bastions of society will fall?

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Old 10-20-2010, 07:59 PM
 
Location: California
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It will keep the Grammar and Spelling Whores busy. Maybe it will take some attention off of me
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Old 10-20-2010, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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I agree with you, that consumption of pot won't change, because everybody (or almost everybody) who wants to smoke pot is already doing so.
There's a whole new generation coming of age that can be convinced to use it.
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Old 10-21-2010, 01:02 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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There's a whole new generation coming of age that can be convinced to use it.
One thing, you don't see any tobacco advertisements on TV and I'll bet pot gets handled the same way, prohibited from advertising anywhere tobacco advertising is prohibited.
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Old 10-21-2010, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Escondido, CA
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You know, I explained this a few posts above the one you quoted.

Further, you omitted discussing how a federal prosecutor would establish scienter if Prop 19 passes, a point I also discussed.
Ignorance of the law is not sufficient to prove lack of mens rea.

If Prop 19 were written as to declare pot legal "in California", that would allow people to get away with an "I thought it was perfectly legal" excuse - for a week at most, and then the relevant section of prop 19 would have been first stayed and then declared unconstitutional under the Supremacy Clause.

Since it only declares it legal "under California law", pot-smokers are expected to understand that the federal law is not California law, and pointing at the proposition at the federal trial gets you nowhere.

Like I said and like others said, we've been through this exact thing with medical marijuana and prop 215, medical pot smokers do get prosecuted under the federal law from time to time, and SCOTUS found no problem with that.
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:30 AM
 
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i think it will come down to price, just like everything else in america. it's funny how you hear people complain about jobs leaving american, but those same people can be found buying crap chinese products from their local walmart because it's easy on their wallet. if legalization drives down the market rates of weed, then cartels will be forced to meet the market or go out of business (or move on to another business). that being said, said cartels will have to actually beat the market because who is going to continue to buy their weed from shady drug dealers when they can go to 7-11 and buy it for the same price. this of course is all contingent on the fact that legalization does drive down the price of weed. if not, not much will change unless of course there is a crazy amount of untapped demand waiting for legalization. but i highly doubt usage rates will see any kind of significant increase just because weed is legal, it will just make life a bit easier for those who already are consumers of the plant.
Well if it wasn't for capitialism we would buy american. But america wants maximum profit and consumer wants bang for buck, doesn't mix. Jobs left america because capatilist wanted maximum profits(cheap labor). I'm a prop 215 patient and anyone against legalization is no different than those who hate blacks,gays,etc. Me smoking marijuana is a human right no one else should decide that. They can't control it so its a problem.
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Old 09-15-2011, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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Why does the federal govt always have to stick their noses into things that are none of their business ?
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Old 09-15-2011, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Columbia, California
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Why does the federal govt always have to stick their noses into things that are none of their business ?
This is exactly what the civil war was fought over. Federal law over state law.
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Earth
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This is exactly what the civil war was fought over. Federal law over state law.
The South also used federal power to accomplish their agenda. There was the matter of the Fugitive Slave Act and Dred Scott v. Sanford....
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