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Old 10-28-2010, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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Meg Whitman should be deported to texas since she loves it there so much.
And take Carly with her!

I still think Whitman had potential- moderate Republican (one of the few left), successful business woman, bank-rolled up the gazoo, running against a living fossil...

But, California had a good look at her, and didn't like what they saw. Poizner forced her to tack way right to get the nomination. Once she earned the support of the anti-illegal immigration conservatives, she couldn't tack back toward the center and hang on to her right flank, especially after she started taping Spanish-language ads.

Meg's poll numbers went down the better we got to know her. The "maidgate" episode wasn't frivolous. The circumstances, and Whitman's incompetent response, undermined the argument for considering her for governor in the first place.
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:20 PM
 
Location: In Your Head
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Whitman is crazy for wanting the law to be enforced on this women, California doesn't need laws.
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Old 10-28-2010, 10:52 PM
 
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Will anyone here, especially those in favor of illegal immigration, step forward and help get the housekeeper legal status?

Meg is correct about one thing: come November 3, no one is going to care about the former housekeeper. She is being used as a tool against Meg Whitman and will be tossed aside once the election is over.
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Old 10-29-2010, 04:12 AM
 
Location: Escondido, CA
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I still think Whitman had potential- moderate Republican (one of the few left)....
What's so moderate about her?

I don't think that moderate Republicans exist at all any more. Republicans don't tolerate dissent nearly as much as Democrats. This is not to say that there aren't any sensible people to the right of center; there are, they just tend to end up being pariahs in their own party, just take the example of David Frum. If you don't subscribe to the Limbaugh/Hannity/Rove agenda, say, if you dare to believe in man-made global warming, or evolution, or support the idea of universal healthcare ... you don't get any party support, and you certainly don't make it through the party primaries. A total nutcase like O'Donnell or Angle stands a better chance of being nominated as a party candidate, than a moderate like Crist.

We really need open primaries nationwide.
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Old 10-29-2010, 04:13 AM
 
Location: Escondido, CA
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You're referring to the lying, border jumping, illegal immigrant, right?
The lying, border jumping illegal immigrant was good enough for her during many years when she was employed by Mrs. Whitman. Don't know about you, but, personally, I like to judge people on their merits.
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Old 10-29-2010, 08:46 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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The lying, border jumping illegal immigrant was good enough for her during many years when she was employed by Mrs. Whitman. Don't know about you, but, personally, I like to judge people on their merits.
Oh, I do too, and breaking my country's laws right from the outset is not high on my list of desireable traits and not endearing.

But if you have no problem with that you're decidedly in the right place!
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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The lying, border jumping illegal immigrant was good enough for her during many years when she was employed by Mrs. Whitman. Don't know about you, but, personally, I like to judge people on their merits.
what part of she was checked out and beleived to be legal you and other bleeding heart liberals can understand?

Nita
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Old 10-30-2010, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Riverside
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What's so moderate about her?

I don't think that moderate Republicans exist at all any more. Republicans don't tolerate dissent nearly as much as Democrats. This is not to say that there aren't any sensible people to the right of center; there are, they just tend to end up being pariahs in their own party, just take the example of David Frum. If you don't subscribe to the Limbaugh/Hannity/Rove agenda, say, if you dare to believe in man-made global warming, or evolution, or support the idea of universal healthcare ... you don't get any party support, and you certainly don't make it through the party primaries. A total nutcase like O'Donnell or Angle stands a better chance of being nominated as a party candidate, than a moderate like Crist.

We really need open primaries nationwide.
Whitman is a social moderate. She's pro-choice, favors "comprehensive immigration reform", including work permits and a path to citizenship. She says the case has not been made for man-caused global climate change, but she does not support Prop 23 either (though she is calling for a "one year moritorium" on inacting it's regulations, "until the economy improves").
Also, she does not seem to be a Christian crack-pot who thinks God is telling her to run.

You are correct to point out that it is hard, if not impossible, for a GOP moderate to get nominated these days. In a lot of ways, Whitman represents the "soft" face of the GOP, packaged to be palatable for voters in a state like California.

BUT...I have no doubt whatsoever that Whitman is a Trojan Horse for the kind of arch-conservative power mongerers who are behind the modern GOP. They are more than willing to overlook Meg's moderate social positions (which, in a governor, are mostly symbolic anyway) , in exchange for her corporatist, low-tax, anti-labor, anti-environment, management-friendly fiscal policies.
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Old 10-30-2010, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Riverside
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Will anyone here, especially those in favor of illegal immigration, step forward and help get the housekeeper legal status?

Meg is correct about one thing: come November 3, no one is going to care about the former housekeeper. She is being used as a tool against Meg Whitman and will be tossed aside once the election is over.
As Terri Ray Elmer pointed out on KFI today, come Nov 3rd, no one is going to care about Meg Whitman either!
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:14 AM
 
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Whitman is a social moderate. She's pro-choice, favors "comprehensive immigration reform", including work permits and a path to citizenship. She says the case has not been made for man-caused global climate change, but she does not support Prop 23 either (though she is calling for a "one year moritorium" on inacting it's regulations, "until the economy improves").
Also, she does not seem to be a Christian crack-pot who thinks God is telling her to run.
Meg Whitman is Pro-Choice and Pro-Life, depending on who she is talking to. Have you not seen this video?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOThtvN11VI
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