The California daily overtime law is a stupid socialist law (ski resorts, insurance)

[ferretkona]

Originally Posted by JS1

...This is a part time job. How much sense does it make to force employers to pay overtime on a part-time job?

No one is forcing anyone to pay overtime for part time work. Your post stinks of that of a business owner.
This is to protect workers from being abused into working 24 hours straight without compensation. This happened too often in the early 20 century.

Only 15 years ago CA law demanded over time pay for Saturday and Sunday work. I bet you may not have complained back then.

[KC6ZLV]

Originally Posted by JS1

... that cost me money today!

At 12:15 PM today, as I was approaching the 8th hour of my workday, I was told to sign out and go home because of the overtime that was imminent. There was still work to do, but because of this socialist piece of crap state, the theory that I would be making 1.5x instead of x dollars per hour is a reality of ZERO. Thanks, socialists!

This is a part time job. How much sense does it make to force employers to pay overtime on a part-time job?

Naw, your employer is just a cheap crybaby.

I've made a lot of extra money of overtime.

[KC6ZLV]

Originally Posted by ferretkona

Only 15 years ago CA law demanded over time pay for Saturday and Sunday work. I bet you may not have complained back then.

Overtime pay was never required for weekend work.

[.highnlite]

I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that OT is be paid for over 40 hours per week, 52 hours in the resort and garment (?) industries. When I worked for Ski Areas we would not get OT for less than 52 hours per week.

[SOON2BNSURPRISE]

Originally Posted by JS1

... that cost me money today!

At 12:15 PM today, as I was approaching the 8th hour of my workday, I was told to sign out and go home because of the overtime that was imminent. There was still work to do, but because of this socialist piece of crap state, the theory that I would be making 1.5x instead of x dollars per hour is a reality of ZERO. Thanks, socialists!

This is a part time job. How much sense does it make to force employers to pay overtime on a part-time job?

What does the state have to do with your employer choosing not to pay overtime? How does that make it a Socialist state? Socialism is in giving out benefits to those that have not earned them. Working overtime would have you as an employee being paid for something that you are doing. How would that make it Socialism? The employer could at their discretion hire someone else to do the work if they do not want to pay overtime. They could pay you the overtime, or they could put off doing the work untill you can work again. No Socialism going on at all, just a business decision by your employer. Would you be complaining if you were told to continue working without getting overtime?

[SOON2BNSURPRISE]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that OT is be paid for over 40 hours per week, 52 hours in the resort and garment (?) industries. When I worked for Ski Areas we would not get OT for less than 52 hours per week.

At one time it was like that. They switched back to ovetime after an 8 hour shift, or 1.5 X your pay from hours 8 - 12 and 2 X pay for more than 12 hours a day. If you are paid every other week an emploer can work you 10 days strait without paying you overtime. as long as they give you 4 days off within the pay period. Lets say that the work week starts on a Monday and you work 10 days strait, then they would need to give you the next 4 days off or pay overtime for the additional days. Now lets say that the work week starts but you have the first 2 days off meaning that you started on Wednesday. They could work you 10 days strait and then give you 2 days off and then you would need to come back to start the next pay period.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by JS1

... that cost me money today!

At 12:15 PM today, as I was approaching the 8th hour of my workday, I was told to sign out and go home because of the overtime that was imminent. There was still work to do, but because of this socialist piece of crap state, the theory that I would be making 1.5x instead of x dollars per hour is a reality of ZERO. Thanks, socialists!

This is a part time job. How much sense does it make to force employers to pay overtime on a part-time job?

Here, if you want something to kvetch about, as a California tax payer, kvetch about this:

California guards union pay called main obstacle to keeping cellphones away from inmates - latimes.com

[JS1]

Originally Posted by MIKEETC

Why didn't you just volunteer your time?

a) I am not interested in working for free
b) that is illegal (minimum wage is $8.00/hr, not zero)

[SOON2BNSURPRISE]

Originally Posted by JS1

a) I am not interested in working for free
b) that is illegal (minimum wage is $8.00/hr, not zero)

You don't joke around much do you?

[Lovehound]

Originally Posted by JS1

... that cost me money today!

At 12:15 PM today, as I was approaching the 8th hour of my workday, I was told to sign out and go home because of the overtime that was imminent. There was still work to do, but because of this socialist piece of crap state, the theory that I would be making 1.5x instead of x dollars per hour is a reality of ZERO. Thanks, socialists!

This is a part time job. How much sense does it make to force employers to pay overtime on a part-time job?

It makes complete sense because your employer is following the labor laws. As you have already discovered the law applies to all hourly workers, not just those with part time jobs, because the law is protecting employees from abuse, even part time employees.

It's obvious that your employer has already gotten as much work out of you as he is willing to pay for. It is the employer's business decision whether the work is worth paying time and a half overtime, or whether he would rather just get the rest done at straight labor rates on another day. If you want to be mad at anybody be mad at your employer. He's the one who decided you'd had enough work (pay) for one day.

Originally Posted by SOON2BNSURPRISE

What does the state have to do with your employer choosing not to pay overtime? How does that make it a Socialist state? Socialism is in giving out benefits to those that have not earned them. Working overtime would have you as an employee being paid for something that you are doing. How would that make it Socialism? The employer could at their discretion hire someone else to do the work if they do not want to pay overtime. They could pay you the overtime, or they could put off doing the work untill you can work again. No Socialism going on at all, just a business decision by your employer. Would you be complaining if you were told to continue working without getting overtime?

Yeah, what he said. It's getting to the point where "socialist" means anything that the OP doesn't like, or at seems to be getting that way at the C-D forums. Anybody who wants to use the word "socialist" should at least look it up and understand what it means before using it.

socialist - an advocate or supporter of socialism.

socialism - a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

capitalism - an economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, especially as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth.

I'm glad we covered the differences. You can see now that your stupid labor law is a capitalist labor law, not a socialist labor law.