Looking to Escape The Sixth Borough of NY AKA South Florida (San Diego: transplants, to rent)

[blauskies]

I'm growing tired of South Florida and Miami in general, the New Yorkers are commandeering it to the point of insanity and aside from the usual it's the arrogant, cocky, loud, nova lox bagel eating pastrami on rye types that are getting under my skin. I'm not deeming all New Yorkers as such, as I even met some who can't even stand their own kin lol!

I'm tired of seeing "I Love NY" logos, NY Giants and Yankees paraphernalia blasted all over the place wherever I go. Never mind the accent out in public with their "Noo Yawkers tawk". It's like Fran Drescher times a thousand! Then we got the New York Ricans moving in which even my Puerto Rican friends deem as the worse.

Then while I'm at it I'll toss in New Jersey which is equally high here, Jersey Housewife types and husbands equally as charming. Did I mention The Soprano look a likes and Jersey Shore Gel Heads?

Aside from that, the job market in tech here blows chunks. RIM is on life support and I don't seem them being a player too much longer.


So I have job leads in both San Diego and the Bay Area that are enticing, but can I honestly avoid what I'm desiring to escape in either area? How is the Noo Yawker demographic?

[jaijai]

Neither San Diego or the bay area will be anything like Florida.
Though there are east coasters in any urban area it's a totally different scene.
These issues you're having there will not be present here.
I'd go for the bay area as i much prefer northern California although it is impacted and extremely expensive.
Where will your potential job in the bay area be?
I just re-read your post and it seems that you don't have a potential job in either place.
So you're trying to figure out where to focus on finding one in California?

[gone down south]

Don't move to get away from your problems, they'll still be with you when you get there.
Move to improve your situation in life.

[jaijai]

Originally Posted by gone down south

Don't move to get away from your problems, they'll still be with you when you get there.
Move to improve your situation in life.

It's about discerning whether the problem is situational / external or whether it's internal.
It's true though that "no matter where you go there you are".

[blauskies]

Originally Posted by jaijai

Neither San Diego or the bay area will be anything like Florida.
Though there are east coasters in any urban area it's a totally different scene.
These issues you're having there will not be present here.
I'd go for the bay area as i much prefer northern California although it is impacted and extremely expensive.
Where will your potential job in the bay area be?
I just re-read your post and it seems that you don't have a potential job in either place.
So you're trying to figure out where to focus on finding one in California?

Let's just say I'm researching potential leads. Nothing is cast in stone and I'm not rushing into it as I have plenty of time to plan and think about it.

I would say in the south, Greater San Diego, Carlsbad and in the North, mainly Southbay, Palo Alto, Redwood City to San Jose areas. I know it's expensive, but the jobs at least in the Bay Area are just too enticing. I feel like I'm stagnant here and the vibe is not to my liking anymore.

Originally Posted by gone down south

Don't move to get away from your problems, they'll still be with you when you get there.
Move to improve your situation in life.

I lived all over the place and each time there was a sacrifice, I'm just not digging it anymore here. I'm not from NY originally, from PA so my dislike for some New Yorkers is a long time affair that has been handed down from my forefathers lol. They are moving in droves into PA now as well along with their Garbage I mean Garden State Brethren.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

There is a large East Coast transplant element here, plus, at least amongst some urban folk (and some younger folk rebelling against their rural or suburban upbringing) hailing locally and from non East Coast places elsewhere, a substantial wanna be element.

In fairness, however, the element here tend to be less tacky than the corresponding SoFla element. They are more of a cultured crowd, FWIW.

YMMV.

[mayorhaggar]

I grew up in South Florida so I know what you mean about the tacky Noo Yawkah guidos all over the place. What I like about California compared with FL is that there aren't any NY-area guidos and there aren't any rednecks. There's a lot of problems here though so honestly if you get upset about guidos you're probably going to find something here to be upset about, like the immigrants or how flaky people here can be.

Definitely come out here to visit before you move, though I imagine that starting a tech job in CA will probably make your next 5 years better compared with working in a dead-end job in the small FL tech job market.

I just moved to Southern California from the Bay Area. The Bay Area does a lot of things better like urban density and natural scenery (here in SoCal it seems like nobody cares about all the disgusting industrial crap lying around all over the place like oil wells right off the beaches and oil drills onshore) but the constantly cool weather can get really old fast, like when it's 65 every day in July, or 45 and pouring rain every day in January. But the weather around San Jose is way warmer than around San Francisco in summer. The weather in Southern California is really just about perfect if you're near the coast, not as hot or humid as FL but not as cold as the Bay Area.

[blauskies]

Originally Posted by BayAreaHillbilly

There is a large East Coast transplant element here, plus, at least amongst some urban folk (and some younger folk rebelling against their rural or suburban upbringing) hailing locally and from non East Coast places elsewhere, a substantial wanna be element.

In fairness, however, the element here tend to be less tacky than the corresponding SoFla element. They are more of a cultured crowd, FWIW.

YMMV.

Along with being better educated, at least in the Bay Area. There seems to be a cloud of stupidness hanging over South Florida. The vibe and desire here is "up all night sleep all day" Jersey Shore knuckle dragging types and a lot of people do not work and they are not all retirees. Porn is big here, maybe that's bringing home the bacon for these types?

Originally Posted by mayorhaggar

I grew up in South Florida so I know what you mean about the tacky Noo Yawkah guidos all over the place. What I like about California compared with FL is that there aren't any NY-area guidos and there aren't any rednecks. There's a lot of problems here though so honestly if you get upset about guidos you're probably going to find something here to be upset about, like the immigrants or how flaky people here can be.

Definitely come out here to visit before you move, though I imagine that starting a tech job in CA will probably make your next 5 years better compared with working in a dead-end job in the small FL tech job market.

I just moved to Southern California from the Bay Area. The Bay Area does a lot of things better like urban density and natural scenery (here in SoCal it seems like nobody cares about all the disgusting industrial crap lying around all over the place like oil wells right off the beaches and oil drills onshore) but the constantly cool weather can get really old fast, like when it's 65 every day in July, or 45 and pouring rain every day in January. But the weather around San Jose is way warmer than around San Francisco in summer. The weather in Southern California is really just about perfect if you're near the coast, not as hot or humid as FL but not as cold as the Bay Area.

Immigrants do not really phase me, I enjoy eating at ethic restaurants and mingle well with them and having lived all over the place I dealt with flaky types, my native state of PA is full of them lol! Rednecks, I don't see many around here, more of a third world country toothless variety.

One thing that would be a sacrifice is the beaches here. I have a friend that lives in Santa Cruz and I visit him once a year usually, been north and south and although I don't care for Santa Cruz personally, other parts are not bad. Ideally I could live in San Luis Obispo which reminds me of Southern Italy a bit, but there are no jobs there in Tech and it's often deemed a boring place to live and I'm not a pipe smoking professor type to get a job at Cal Poly, much like living in South Florida, can't have your cake and eat it.

LA is not in the radar though I have some distant relatives there, my father lived there back in the late 50's early 60's requested a transfer, but being in the Military, moving was a fact of life and they made him an offer to move back East.

[robertpolyglot]

Originally Posted by blauskies

There seems to be a cloud of stupidness hanging over South Florida.

I'll give you that. The guidos comments are funny. Guidos STILL exist? I thought that was an 80s thing. I'm Italian, but raised in Southern California and have relatives from the Tri-state area. You will be in for sticker shock when you see how much it costs to rent or buy a nice place in...ahem...a nice neighborhood in California.

How about Atlanta? A lot of Northeasterners have moved there. I lived there, coming from California, and I was surprised how much I liked it. No coastline...4 hour drive to the Panhandle or Myrtle Beach, though.

[jeffredo]

Coastal California has lots of Eastern transplants (always has) - but living here seems to mellow them quickly.