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Old 06-26-2016, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Westminster/Huntington Beach, CA
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Absolutely not. I don't care if I will never be able to afford living right on the beach. Drives down PCH are one of the best things about living "near" the ocean, and a big reason for that is the lack of imposing structures, except around harbor areas.
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Old 06-26-2016, 10:03 AM
 
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^ and the Nuclear power plants
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Old 06-26-2016, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Westminster/Huntington Beach, CA
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^ and the Nuclear power plants
The San Onofre boobies are a novelty to me. The power plant in HB is much more of an eyesore.
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Old 06-26-2016, 06:56 PM
 
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Despite Southern California's large dense urban areas beaches are fairly suburban.

Potential locations for high rise beach community similar to Miami Beach and Waikiki

Ventura/Oxnard: There's a large patch of farm land east of the harbor and south of downtown

Ocean Park, Marina Del Rey:

Long Beach/Belmont Shores:

Huntington Beach

San Diego: Mission Bay/Mission Beach, Coronado Island if they sold the Naval Base.
No, we do not.
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Old 06-27-2016, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Despite Southern California's large dense urban areas beaches are fairly suburban.

Potential locations for high rise beach community similar to Miami Beach and Waikiki

Ventura/Oxnard: There's a large patch of farm land east of the harbor and south of downtown

Ocean Park, Marina Del Rey:

Long Beach/Belmont Shores:

Huntington Beach

San Diego: Mission Bay/Mission Beach, Coronado Island if they sold the Naval Base.
To build in California is hard enough. So much red tape to get past. To build on the coast is even harder. To build on a hillside is harder than that. If you are going to build on a hillside overlooking the coast you deal with the coastal commission and a hillside commission. A close friend looked at this when he wanted to install a patio on the front of his house on a hillside, with an ocean view and he is a mile away from the ocean. He was going to have to pay for a study from both the coastal and the hillside commission. It would have cost him another $30,000 just to build the patio.

The other problem is with blocking someone else's view. In Ventura you are limited to 3 stories. In a Hospital zone you can go higher. Our main tower is 8 stories and our new building is 6 stories. Residential building in Ventura is limited to 3 stories. The same in Oxnard.

On top of that in Ventura County we have SOAR initiatives that limit any kind of building on open space. Plenty of developers have tried to get projects thru but they can take decades to put together. When projects get approved it is after years of work and most are so scaled down that the cost increases the sale price of the finished product. On top of that, I don't know if you know this or not but to build on the hillsides in the Ventura area takes a lot of additional engineering. The hills are not as stable as they appear. Years ago a developer built a large development of Condos above Poli with beautiful views. Rains came and about a third of them were washed down the hill. Hillside collapsed. They had to reinforce what was left and almost all of them were sold to people outside the area.
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Old 06-27-2016, 01:11 PM
 
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I'm glad to see the majority of the responses on this thread are against it. (Actually more like 100% of the replys).

I made this in responce to this post.

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Old 06-29-2016, 01:46 AM
 
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Like others have said on here,if you want Waikiki then go to Hawaii and if you want Miami then go to Florida.
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Old 06-29-2016, 12:49 PM
 
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Long Beach is clearly aiming to go as far in that direction as they can. It's a mixed bag. On nice days traffic and crowds are horrendous.
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Old 06-29-2016, 12:51 PM
 
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I'll add that although it is The Bayside and not the beach proper, SF's Embarcadero is also trying to push into the "Gold Coast" type of vibe. Very $$$$$$$, crowded, and as time goes on, just a bit too plastic.
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:10 AM
 
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Coastal Southern California from LA to SD was already ruined due to wilderness being paved over by track housing. I don't see the harm in replacing ugly tack housing with highrises. Ideally Southern California would have more open space in Orange County and Northern San Diego County with a few pockets of density similar to Miami Beach or Waikiki. Even medium style density that you would find in Southern Europe would be a vast improvement.
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