CA residents leaving in mass (rent, house, to buy)

[pnwguy2]

This is a poorly written article, but the point is valid.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/real...xcw?li=BBnb7Kz

[JB316]

I don’t believe anyone from California is going to complain about people leaving.

[Mr5150]

In mass???

I thought it was in droves?

Now I’m confused. So which is it? In mass or droves. And how is a mass different than a drove?

Your title says in mass, but the article said in droves. I know what a drove is having researched the topic in depth. But how big is this mass vehicle? Is it larger than a drove? Most people leave CA in a drove not a mass. I drive a Subaru BTW.

[pnwguy2]

A drove is considered a mass. But I agree, the terms are somewhat misunderstood.

I drive a Toyota Camry BTW.

[BeauCharles]

"en masse".

[Bruin1983]

It has already been proven over and over again that more people are arriving than leaving. If tomorrow you decided to leave, it would have a very insignificant impact. For every person that leaves there are three eagerly in line waiting to replace you.

It’s a GOOD thing that residents are leaving because it’s usually the lower educated, less ambition individuals that are better off somewhere else where the cost of living is lower. The ones entering California are higher salary earners and can support to financially support the COL.

[KC6ZLV]

I hope more people leave.

https://www.ocregister.com/2017/01/1...om-california/

[sdlife619]

Sin City it is for me as well. Me and my fiancé + one child are going house hunting next month. We’re going to spend a week out there looking for homes and areas we like the most. We both work and between both of us, we make (net) around $60,000 a year. If you add up all the expenses, bills, food, gas, utilities, cell phone bill, including rent between both of us, we don’t have much left over for anything.

I agree more people do need to leave the state, we are seriously over populated. Everyone knows it, the poor are leaving in droves and is struggling the most, but the real concern that is going to have serious consequences in the near future is how little the Middle Class population will be left in CA’s biggest cities with the continued rise in the COL.

The majority of new residents to CA are wealthy people that can afford it. We as a society can’t continue to just house rich and upper classes of people and expect everything to get better or be ok. If you don’t have workers of all income brackets able to live nearby there jobs or an area, it doesn’t justify the long commute times for such little pay for those workers that are priced out where they work.Therefore employers will find it more and more difficult to hire workers that will be willing to work for little pay in a high cost environment. As a worker, it’s economically stupid to drive so far for so little pay.

We also can’t keep pushing everyone out East into the desert and mountains for lower cost housing and expect to makes things better. It will only worsen traffic, and the quality of life with it.

CA isn’t all that to me anymore. I was born and raised here (SoCal) and I wouldn’t regret leaving if I could tomorrow. The days of the working man making decent money being able to buy a home and still be able to afford to live comfortably with his family here is long gone. With taxes always going up, and new bans for this and that, the state is making life that much harder on its residents and more expensive indirectly every year.

The homeless population will only get worse as there’s no way for those people to sustain themselves in expensive CA cities (L.A. S.F. OC and SD), even if they worked full-time.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by Bruin1983

It has already been proven over and over again that more people are arriving than leaving. If tomorrow you decided to leave, it would have a very insignificant impact. For every person that leaves there are three eagerly in line waiting to replace you.

It’s a GOOD thing that residents are leaving because it’s usually the lower educated, less ambition individuals that are better off somewhere else where the cost of living is lower. The ones entering California are higher salary earners and can support to financially support the COL.

Actually more leave CA than arrive from another State. Just look it up. The growth in population is foreign immigration (legal and illegal) and the birth rate (Which is slowing).

[BB_210]

Originally Posted by Bruin1983

It has already been proven over and over again that more people are arriving than leaving. If tomorrow you decided to leave, it would have a very insignificant impact. For every person that leaves there are three eagerly in line waiting to replace you.

It’s a GOOD thing that residents are leaving because it’s usually the lower educated, less ambition individuals that are better off somewhere else where the cost of living is lower. The ones entering California are higher salary earners and can support to financially support the COL.

Can you provide some numbers to back up those claims? Please differentiate between arrivals from within the country and foreigners, numbers showing its the lower educated, less ambitious, numbers showing its a majority of high salary earners arriving.