Bullet train? Yes or no? (Los Angeles, San Diego: to rent, transfer, living in)

[man4857]

Originally Posted by oceangaia

So for you, cost is irrelevant? It doesn't matter how many tens of billions of dollars they go over budget?


How come when freeways generate remote development it's derogatorily called "sprawl"?

For me, my preference is to increase density and start building high rises. Let's see how that pans out with all the NIMBYs adamantly blocking high rise construction projects because of the "destruction to quality of life in the region". I have no hopes building high rises would be built quick enough. Thus, HSR would be a viable option.

If a quicker solution exists, that's the choice I'd prefer.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by man4857

For me, my preference is to increase density and start building high rises. Let's see how that pans out with all the NIMBYs adamantly blocking high rise construction projects because of the "destruction to quality of life in the region". I have no hopes building high rises would be built quick enough. Thus, HSR would be a viable option.

If a quicker solution exists, that's the choice I'd prefer.

OK, build High Rises in Fresno and Stockton. Oops of no value, so where on earth can they be built that will not:


A. Have a negative impact on life
B. Not bring prices down


The Train will help a few but not the vast majority.

[BB_210]

This high speed rail is the answer to a question nobody asked.

[ysr_racer]

Originally Posted by max210

This high speed rail is the answer to a question nobody asked.

Not true, somebody must have asked, how can we **** away 80 billion dollars, and raise taxes to pay for it?

[man4857]

Originally Posted by expatCA

OK, build High Rises in Fresno and Stockton. Oops of no value, so where on earth can they be built that will not:


A. Have a negative impact on life
B. Not bring prices down


The Train will help a few but not the vast majority.

The reference point was from the urban cores, not rural/small town areas.

[DKM]

If its the environment they want to protect by using an inefficient expensive train, they can better spend the 80 billion on clean energy and electric car incentives.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by man4857

The reference point was from the urban cores, not rural/small town areas.

Where is it being built now, how long until it reaches SF or LA?

[BB_210]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Where is it being built now, how long until it reaches SF or LA?

And how long and how much is a flight from LA to SF?

[2nd trick op]

Originally Posted by max210

And how long and how much is a flight from LA to SF?

I doubt you can find regular (and inexpensive) flights from Stockton to San Francisco, or from Bakersfield to Los Angeles; and those are examples of the eventual target markets for HSR in California. Unfortunately, these will require heavy capital and land-acquisition costs -- exactly why these hard choices were avoided until the next phase of the program.

Originally Posted by expatCA

Where is it being built now, how long until it reaches SF or LA?

Probably not for quite a while, but I'm fairly sure that the people who decided to build first in the Central Valley (where land is relatively inexpensive and potential high speeds are more quickly and easily realized) were aware of this -- it tends to force a few more hands, a few years further along.

[BB_210]

More capital than 80 billion go connect two cities that aren't LA and SF? Dang.