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Old 03-17-2019, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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As for me "Cali" is not annoying.
it is not a big deal to me. The internet is full of shortcuts.
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Old 03-17-2019, 06:21 PM
 
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I don’t necessarily like ‘Cali’ either, but it is far from ‘setting my teeth on edge’. Maybe you should explore why you have such an emotional reaction to it rather than blaming the ‘younger generation’ for your frustration.
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Can you explain why? It seems rather odd that a shortened version of a word would cause this level of an emotional reaction.

I get we all have our weird quirks. But this one I don't understand at all.
"Cali" is overly cutesy and demeaning. Beyond that, I'm not going to waste my time pondering why it irritates me so much. I'm clearly not the only one who feels this way. But if you have an inclination for that sort of thing, go right ahead and "explore" your own quirky emotional reactions.
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Old 03-17-2019, 06:28 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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"Cali" is overly cutesy and demeaning. Beyond that, I'm not going to waste my time pondering why it irritates me so much. I'm clearly not the only one who feels this way. But if you have an inclination for that sort of thing, go right ahead and "explore" your own quirky emotional reactions.
I don’t necessarily like it, but I don’t have any quirky emotional reactions to it either. (I’m not the one who said it ‘sets my teeth on edge’.)

Just curious - how is it demeaning?
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Old 03-17-2019, 06:42 PM
 
Location: California
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"Cali" is overly cutesy and demeaning. Beyond that, I'm not going to waste my time pondering why it irritates me so much. I'm clearly not the only one who feels this way. But if you have an inclination for that sort of thing, go right ahead and "explore" your own quirky emotional reactions.
Wow. Subtly hostile much? You must have a lot of negative emotions on a daily basis if you react like this to things.
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Old 03-17-2019, 08:15 PM
 
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I don’t necessarily like it, but I don’t have any quirky emotional reactions to it either. (I’m not the one who said it ‘sets my teeth on edge’.)

Just curious - how is it demeaning?
No, that was me. I simply meant that everyone has a quirky emotional reaction to something. It's part of being human. You have yours, guaranteed, and I have mine.

As for how it is demeaning, I'll give an example from a different viewpoint. Let's say you are a woman named Elizabeth. Your family calls you Elizabeth, your friends call you Elizabeth. You start a job at a new company and when you introduce yourself as Elizabeth to a new coworker, he replies, "Hi, Betsy! I'm Jim."

You politely say that your name is not Betsy and no one calls you that. He smiles agreeably, but an hour later, he introduces you as Betsy to another coworker. You patiently repeat that your name is Elizabeth, not Betsy. Jim now looks irritated. "It takes too long to say 'Elizabeth.' Betsy is a perfectly fine nickname for Elizabeth. I'll call you what I want." Next thing you know, the whole office is calling you Betsy and accusing you of being hostile and overly emotional because you are upset about it.

Would you not feel demeaned? No one has a right to do that. Of course, a personal name is not the same as a place name, but on a lower level, people who live in California, love California, and have always called their state California think that folks from some other area have no business inventing a cute nickname and insisting on using it. That's all. Now go right ahead and tell me all about my negative emotions and why I need therapy and so forth.
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Old 03-17-2019, 09:06 PM
 
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Can you explain why? It seems rather odd that a shortened version of a word would cause this level of an emotional reaction.

I get we all have our weird quirks. But this one I don't understand at all.

Same here. I have too many things going on in life with work and bills to make a stink about how someone refers to Commiefornia, I mean Mexifornia, I mean Cali...………..fornia!
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Old 03-18-2019, 09:14 AM
 
Location: As of 2022….back to SoCal. OC this time!
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No, that was me. I simply meant that everyone has a quirky emotional reaction to something. It's part of being human. You have yours, guaranteed, and I have mine.

As for how it is demeaning, I'll give an example from a different viewpoint. Let's say you are a woman named Elizabeth. Your family calls you Elizabeth, your friends call you Elizabeth. You start a job at a new company and when you introduce yourself as Elizabeth to a new coworker, he replies, "Hi, Betsy! I'm Jim."

You politely say that your name is not Betsy and no one calls you that. He smiles agreeably, but an hour later, he introduces you as Betsy to another coworker. You patiently repeat that your name is Elizabeth, not Betsy. Jim now looks irritated. "It takes too long to say 'Elizabeth.' Betsy is a perfectly fine nickname for Elizabeth. I'll call you what I want." Next thing you know, the whole office is calling you Betsy and accusing you of being hostile and overly emotional because you are upset about it.

Would you not feel demeaned? No one has a right to do that. Of course, a personal name is not the same as a place name, but on a lower level, people who live in California, love California, and have always called their state California think that folks from some other area have no business inventing a cute nickname and insisting on using it. That's all. Now go right ahead and tell me all about my negative emotions and why I need therapy and so forth.
I am one of the many who sometimes calls it Cali & I am from Torrance. If your name is Elizabeth & you don't wanna be Betsy...that is so different. Your name belongs to you....Cali doesn't.

If someone at work asks me where I moved from ...I would not say Cali or I'm a Caligirl. Lol! I'd say California, or Torrance. Online......I might TYPE or put on a profile, I'm originally a "Southern Caligirl" (a screen name example...) or I'm from Cali.....but that is so different than speaking it in conversation at work or in public. No one speaks & says CA either, it's a typed abbreviation! Cali is just an abbreviation & slang too. When people ask me where I am moving...online I might say "back to Cali...but a different part this time". But I N P E R S O N, I say California. I don't know who had the gall ..Lol.. to "invent" the cute nickname as you say but I'm 30 & grew up in the LA area...& as far back as I can remember, I've been reading it & hearing it. It is not demeaning.....
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Old 03-18-2019, 09:15 AM
 
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Cali, Cali, Cali
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Old 03-18-2019, 09:22 AM
 
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OP, are you even originally FROM California yourself? Just asking, because it seems like the people who get extra mad about small stuff like this are usually the transplants, who in most cases, usually ride harder for places than the actual NATIVES do.
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Old 03-18-2019, 12:18 PM
 
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OP, are you even originally FROM California yourself? Just asking, because it seems like the people who get extra mad about small stuff like this are usually the transplants, who in most cases, usually ride harder for places than the actual NATIVES do.
Are you from the Southland?
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