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Old 07-09-2019, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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If Cali didn't have the USA backing them, they would very quickly devolve into another state of Mexico.
And if California gold didnt back the union during the civil war, the country probably wouldnt have lasted.

[Ulysses S.]Grant once said on the topic of California’s support to the war effort, “I do not know what we would do in this great national emergency if it were not for the gold sent from California.”

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/a...ring-civil-war

So dont bite the hand that saved you.
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Old 07-09-2019, 07:05 AM
 
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^America wouldn't of existed if it wasn't for CA pulling away from Pangea and forming the continent.

#DontBiteTheHandThatFeedsYou
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Old 07-09-2019, 07:26 AM
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Liberal Californians patting themselves on the back for funding the military industrial complex and border walls?
Just think if you reigned it in a little....
Do realize red states are on to something. Give the feds less money, and it becomes less likely they’ll force everyone to participate in things they disagree with.
Different states have different cultures. Let each one largely govern itself within reason. I only throw in “within reason” because some looney toon will inevitably think slavery would pop back up if not for the heavy hand of Uncle Sam.
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Old 07-09-2019, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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Haha this is your smoking gun? I hate to break it to you but it's shooting blanks.

According to the report which is the basis of the article you linked, California received $455 Million more in federal spending than it paid in taxes collected.

But upon further investigation by me, that's because Trump increased defense personnel spending in CA by $1.2 billion in 2017 from where it was in 2016.

2017 Defense Spending:
Defense Spending by State - Fiscal Year 2017 | Office of Economic Adjustment

2016 Defense Spending:
Defense Spending by State | Office of Economic Adjustment

This wasnt even an expenditure on civilians. So removing that $1.2 billion takes CA back to donor status to the tune of $755 Million OWED TO US. We accept cash only btw.

Your state Georgia on the other hand, mooched $23 billion off of other states in 2017.

So the next time you come at me, do yourself a favor and dont.

Montclair, you have a history of posts arguing with people.
Seen it on many posts.
Are you fearful I might come at you because of your week posts?
You still look like a fool.
As far as Georgia, I never said anything to the contrary of it’s status. I guess you had to bring it up to deflect the fact that your intent to make California more than what it is failed and you had no other ideas.
As far as 2017, why don’t you look up current dates instead of the past.
Thanks neutrino junior.
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Old 07-09-2019, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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lol - don't play with numbers to try to get yourself out of an error. You've obviously never have lived in a town or city with military bases. They pump a huge amount of money into the local economy. Is your memory short enough that you don't remember the impact the Bush/Clinton base closures had on California? It hurt.
His memory isn’t short, just biased and selective.
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Old 07-09-2019, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Do realize red states are on to something. Give the feds less money, and it becomes less likely they’ll force everyone to participate in things they disagree with.
Hello? They pay less because they earn less.

I love how the current crop of fake conservatives LOVE to talk about how much of their tax dollars are used pay to support the poor and needy when its red states that drain resources the most. By far.
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Old 07-09-2019, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Montclair, you have a history of posts arguing with people.
Seen it on many posts.
Are you fearful I might come at you because of your week posts?
You still look like a fool.
As far as Georgia, I never said anything to the contrary of it’s status. I guess you had to bring it up to deflect the fact that your intent to make California more than what it is failed and you had no other ideas.
As far as 2017, why don’t you look up current dates instead of the past.
Thanks neutrino junior.
Like I said, we take cash only.
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Old 07-09-2019, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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Like I said, we take cash only.
If you love California so much why do you say Switzerland?
As far as cash, at least you now admit the state takes money , not gives.
Glad you figured that out.
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Old 07-09-2019, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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Hello? They pay less because they earn less.

I love how the current crop of fake conservatives LOVE to talk about how much of their tax dollars are used pay to support the poor and needy when its red states that drain resources the most. By far.
Love to see how people like yourself brag of the economic powerhouse of California that California is, yet has problems of homeless and more people on welfare than any other state. I guess you’re wealthy, but don’t care about others, even in your home state. You have enough money, this shouldn’t exist in California if you really cared about people, but I guess you don’t.
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Old 07-09-2019, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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As far as cash, at least you now admit the state takes money , not gives.
Glad you figured that out.
No that would be YOUR state. $23 Billion Id be embarrassed but as a Christian, I dont mind helping the needy.
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