Anybody but government workers voting for Prop 1A? (Arnold: insurance, credit card)

[user_id]

Originally Posted by eureka1

People who really understand the situation of the state and can read more than three sentences of the voter summary AND who want the schools to open on time this Fall, will vote yes, or already have.

Are you a state worker?

[VLWH]

Originally Posted by happ

Yes I am voting for all 6 propositions because I want our state to get back on its feet, so to speak. Too bad many others are voting against these attempts to help California or are not voting at all. In-fact, the polling people predict it will be a terrible turn-out next week. So many Californians don't even bother to vote. What kind of civic duty is that?

1A:

---A 1-cent-per-dollar increase in the state sales tax, from the current tax of 8% to 9%, will be extended for one year through 2011-12.

---The state's Vehicle License Fee will go from .65 percent to nearly 1.15 percent of a vehicle's value for two additional years through 2012-13.

---An increase of 0.25% in the state's Personal Income Tax on every tax bracket, will also be extended for two more years through the 2012 tax year

Tax and spend.... And when they need more money next year, you'll be first in line at the voting booth ready and willing to sign another blank check.

[Den Mathias]

Originally Posted by user_id

I don't know anybody that is voting "Yes" on Prop 1A, is it just those associated with public workers and the government that support it?

Not I ! said the little red hen!

Dooh!

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by eureka1

People who really understand the situation of the state and can read more than three sentences of the voter summary AND who want the schools to open on time this Fall, will vote yes, or already have.

People who really want to hold their elected toadies accountable will vote "No!"

I'm a retired state legislative analyst. I believe I can read the propositions.

[SOON2BNSURPRISE]

It's not more money that 1A - 1E will provide, it is robbing from Peter to pay Pall. Problem occurs when Peter is out of money and he informs the electorate of that fact it will be too late. Money that they want to "borrow" is already set aside for other things that we the people already think we need. I say vote no on at least 1A - 1E. Not sure how 1F would work other than the elected officials will not get a raise in those years that we don't have a balanced budget. How about a proposition where they don't get paid at all? How about balancing the budget in the state like most private enterprise is doing, laying off people. GM and Chrysler just cut many dealerships lose. Why is that? Well people are not buying the cars and they have a need to consolidate dealerships. We as a state are also out of money and have a need to consoidate services and eliminate spending.

[ringwise]

Originally Posted by eureka1

People who really understand the situation of the state and can read more than three sentences of the voter summary AND who want the schools to open on time this Fall, will vote yes, or already have.

Because of course, that's the ONLY place to make cuts. That and fire, police, prisons - you know, unnecessary things.

But a quick glance at the budget shows 57 people employed by the Horse Racing Board, 2328 employed by the Public Retirement office, 865 in Teacher Retirement office, and 11 in the High Speed Rail office. Absolutely none of those positions can be cut.......they're not emotional enough.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.......

[roosevelt]

Seems we are reaching a saturation point with the majority of voters now either working for the government or do not pay any taxes and in fact live on tax money given to them; this problem of people who not pay taxes being allowed to vote was a big debate even 200 years ago. Now what happens? People who earn money quit working so hard? Move out of the state? More incentive to hide their income? I noted when in London years ago it seemed like an awful lot of people were in the flea market business doing cash sales only. I know in Los Angeles it has been estimated that 40% of all income is not reported.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Originally Posted by eureka1

People who really understand the situation of the state and can read more than three sentences of the voter summary AND who want the schools to open on time this Fall, will vote yes, or already have.

Yeah man, schools will close, fires will burn unchecked, cops will all be fired, and, most significantly, there will be NO MORE state funded health care ... FOR ... the CHILDREN!!! /sarc

[user_id]

Originally Posted by roosevelt

I noted when in London years ago it seemed like an awful lot of people were in the flea market business doing cash sales only. I know in Los Angeles it has been estimated that 40% of all income is not reported.

Every small business owner I know will often let cash payments fall directly in their pocket. Some will even offer discounts for cash payments.

And yes there is a huge black market in California, especially the big cities.

[VLWH]

Originally Posted by SOON2BNSURPRISE

It's not more money that 1A - 1E will provide, it is robbing from Peter to pay Pall. Problem occurs when Peter is out of money and he informs the electorate of that fact it will be too late. Money that they want to "borrow" is already set aside for other things that we the people already think we need. I say vote no on at least 1A - 1E. Not sure how 1F would work other than the elected officials will not get a raise in those years that we don't have a balanced budget. How about a proposition where they don't get paid at all? How about balancing the budget in the state like most private enterprise is doing, laying off people. GM and Chrysler just cut many dealerships lose. Why is that? Well people are not buying the cars and they have a need to consolidate dealerships. We as a state are also out of money and have a need to consoidate services and eliminate spending.

You are correct, except 1A does include several tax increases:

1A:

---A 1-cent-per-dollar increase in the state sales tax, from the current tax of 8% to 9%, will be extended for one year through 2011-12.

---The state's Vehicle License Fee will go from .65 percent to nearly 1.15 percent of a vehicle's value for two additional years through 2012-13.

---An increase of 0.25% in the state's Personal Income Tax on every tax bracket, will also be extended for two more years through the 2012 tax year