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Old 05-05-2017, 03:54 PM
 
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...and so it begins.
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Old 05-05-2017, 04:08 PM
 
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I cut out everything else you said but would have to agree. I think I still would have gone with Hillary though - despite her flaws just a bit less supernova like

As for the Ontario thing - gosh are you ever correct. Practically every bone in my body is liberal but I had a hard time bringing myself to vote Wynne! She has made it as hard as possible to vote for her even though this should be an easy choice for me - trust me, its not and I don't think I can bring myself to vote for her.
I didn't vote for her to begin with.. course in our system if you vote for "THE" party local representative.. SHE as the Provincial Leader automatically becomes Premier. That's the only truly sticking point with our way of elections.

With so many parties, often votes get diluted .. as in the Leader isn't on the Ballot.. Only the local ones which often ends up with a poor leader/representative of what you really want. Guess we all hope and pray that the one's we vote for somehow can undo the Party Leadership down when it comes to legislation!
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Old 05-05-2017, 04:32 PM
 
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...and so it begins.
Not surprising. I knew as soon as they elected this Buffoon that it was going to be bad. Sad thing is nobody wins in all this. Americans will lose, Canadians will lose, Mexicans will lose....Our Continent loses but Trump, now that is a winner
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Old 05-05-2017, 04:36 PM
 
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I didn't vote for her to begin with.. course in our system if you vote for "THE" party local representative.. SHE as the Provincial Leader automatically becomes Premier. That's the only truly sticking point with our way of elections.

With so many parties, often votes get diluted .. as in the Leader isn't on the Ballot.. Only the local ones which often ends up with a poor leader/representative of what you really want. Guess we all hope and pray that the one's we vote for somehow can undo the Party Leadership down when it comes to legislation!
Yeah it would be cool if we could vote for a particular party on the local level but also have a choice between a pool of leaders within that party to be Premier.
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Old 05-05-2017, 04:52 PM
 
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Not surprising. I knew as soon as they elected this Buffoon that it was going to be bad. Sad thing is nobody wins in all this. Americans will lose, Canadians will lose, Mexicans will lose....Our Continent loses but Trump, now that is a winner
Trump is such a fool. Did you hear what he said to the Australian PM about healthcare? Even though it's true, when you and your party is moving as fast away from anything remotely universal, it's a stupid, stupid thing to say.

WATCH: Trump Tells Australia
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Old 05-05-2017, 06:03 PM
 
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Trump is such a fool. Did you hear what he said to the Australian PM about healthcare? Even though it's true, when you and your party is moving as fast away from anything remotely universal, it's a stupid, stupid thing to say.

WATCH: Trump Tells Australia
LOL this guy is too much.... Seriously nothing shocks me about him.. Maybe Trudeau should just heap cheap praise on him and stroke his uhem ego more. Maybe that is all it takes with this guy - I dunno like can it even possibly get more bizarre... House of Cards season 5 is irrelevant now - like how could fiction create anything more shocking than what is real.
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Old 05-07-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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Another blow to the populism/protectionism movement with the defeat of Le Pen in France.
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Old 05-07-2017, 01:32 PM
 
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Macron has to now perform on the high-wire without a net as the populace was not enthralled with their choices to say the least. Very poor voter turn out as a lot of them expressed their disappointment in both candidates by not voting. He's got to form consensus among a very unhappy bunch of people. I wish him god speed.

Strange how so many democracies have recently gotten to a point where we're all voting for the least objectionable of a rather sad lot of prospects.
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Old 05-07-2017, 01:45 PM
 
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Macron has to now perform on the high-wire without a net as the populace was not enthralled with their choices to say the least. Very poor voter turn out as a lot of them expressed their disappointment in both candidates by not voting. He's got to form consensus among a very unhappy bunch of people. I wish him god speed.

Strange how so many democracies have recently gotten to a point where we're all voting for the least objectionable of a rather sad lot of prospects.
Macron kind of emerged from nowhere really and it was a pretty stark rebuke of a lot of 'seasoned' politicians and parties. Former PM Fillon defeated former PM Juppe and former President Sarkozy only to be roundly defeated by both Macron and Le Pen in the 1st round. The PM under Hollande - Valls didn't even win the leadership of the governing party (PS) and was defeated by Hammon who placed a distant forth in the 1st round. So as much as Macron may or may not be the best option at the end of the day he rather handily defeated the competition one by one and pretty prominent competition in the French political landscape.

Still, with only 35 percent support vs Macron's 65 percent, I think that this is a pretty sound defeat for populism regardless of low turnout. If Le Pen had won the E.U would have most likely been on the beginning of its death bed. That most likely won't be happening now. There is definitely something going on in the west, but that something may not be populism as much as we thought.

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Old 05-07-2017, 02:34 PM
 
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Macron has to now perform on the high-wire without a net as the populace was not enthralled with their choices to say the least. Very poor voter turn out as a lot of them expressed their disappointment in both candidates by not voting. He's got to form consensus among a very unhappy bunch of people. I wish him god speed.

Strange how so many democracies have recently gotten to a point where we're all voting for the least objectionable of a rather sad lot of prospects.
Happening right here in BC. Our provincial election is Tuesday. Voter turn out in our last one was 51 percent.

We had 6 days of advanced polls, yesterday being the last. There was a line up at mine and friends say at theirs as well, so hopefully the turn out will be larger.

The choices aren't great...one MLA running again is very well liked and a hard worker. Alas they aren't in my riding...so there are exceptions.

CBC did a little piece asking people if they vote for the candidate over party or vice versa. For me it depends on the level...municipal,provincial or federal.
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