Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Ridiculous, of course. But don't you think she's simply being deliberately provocative?
Perhaps, but it's a valid question to ask what the reactions and consequences would be if someone made similarly outrageous statements on the other side of the issue(s).
I understand what you're saying, but societies have always gone through sociopolitical cycles. That has always been the case and always will be. We'll get through this disturbing trend (I haven't watched TV since Trump announced his candidacy. I'm not kidding. I cut cable, and I don't miss it), and in a few years - 5 or maybe 10 -- things will start shifting to the left again.
Don't forget: GenZ will be voting in much larger numbers now, and I think they'll be instrumental in turning the tide. I sure hope so, anyway.
This is *generally* my view as well. The idea that human history is cyclical as opposed to linear.
That said, we must keep in mind that even if we likely will go back to a more leftist dominante eventually, the terrain on which that will play out will have been changed by this episode we're in. Like a hurricane or a tsunami alters the shape and appearance of the coastline - it's the never quite the same as it was before.
I don't think so. Acajack, in my mind, is one of the most sensible, insightful, fair-minded posters on the entire CD forum. He's not influenced by extreme right-wing ideas in any way. I wish he would comment more often in P&OC, but he's too sensible to do that.
Awww shucks. (Blush)
One reason I don't go on P&OC very often is because I find most of the posters are "too close" the issues in their guts and minds there. Plus most of them are Americans as are most of the topics, and while I am not ignorant of U.S. current events and politics, I am not as in-depth as I'd like to be as a regular contributor.
Trump's "baffling popularity" is easily explainable. It comes from an era when white men earned the money, often in working-class jobs, and their white wives stayed at home, to raise the children. Their sons were taught to get an education beyond high school, and use that education to get a job; while their daughters, who might pursue a post-secondary education, were only in it to get an "Mrs." degree. The movie "Mona Lisa Smile" explores this question.
Things changed, during the 1970s and 1980s. No longer did you, white man, start in the mailroom, and work your way up to Vice-President after forty years at the same company. You white men do well at the company, and you get promoted? Nope, not necessarily. Now, Blacks and women could be promoted over you. Further, they could be hired for jobs that did not start in the mailroom. Women especially, did not attend post-secondary institutions to get a "Mrs." degree; they attended to get an education that would take them beyond traditional female job roles.
Trump's "baffling popularity" is easily explainable. It's a wish for a return to the 1950s, when white men made the money, their white wives were in the kitchen, their white children were the only kids you ever saw in the media; and single women, blacks, gays, lesbians, and immigrants; and the challenges they faced, were never heard about. That's the world that Trump supporters want--but it's not the world that any of us live in any more.
There is some of that for sure, and the Trump phenomenon (even if understandable or at least explainable to some degree) certainly isn't born out of mostly laudable intentions, but to place all the blame on that seems awfully simplistic.
There is some of that for sure, and the Trump phenomenon (even if understandable or at least explainable to some degree) certainly isn't born out of mostly laudable intentions, but to place all the blame on that seems awfully simplistic.
Agreed. There's some of that going on but it's much bigger. Strong man leaders like Trump have caught on worldwide. I think people in general have gotten comfortable voicing anti-globalist and anti-immigration views and we're seeing politicians react to that.
Ask your american democrat doctor about Xanax ,he will know all about it and it could help you bigly.
.
Thanks, doc! Nice of you to offer your medical services pro bono.
But I don't need Xanax, and the fact that I don't watch TV is probably one of the reasons why. I refuse to be a spectator of the 24/7 circus of US politics, replete with over-the-top performances by both the left and right, while the Showman-in-Chief revels in the attention. Nope. Taking my money elsewhere.
But, since you as a fellow Canadian (I'm guessing) seem to have a negative view of US Democrats maybe you'd like to come South and campaign for Trump! Of course, you'd have to give up your "socialist" healthcare and all those other "leftist" "handouts." The Trump camp considers UHC nothing more than theft carried out by socialist snowflakes for socialist snowflakes.
Thanks, doc! Nice of you to offer your medical services pro bono.
But I don't need Xanax, and the fact that I don't watch TV is probably one of the reasons why. I refuse to be a spectator of the 24/7 circus of US politics, replete with over-the-top performances by both the left and right, while the Showman-in-Chief revels in the attention. Nope. Taking my money elsewhere.
But, since you as a fellow Canadian (I'm guessing) seem to have a negative view of US Democrats maybe you'd like to come South and campaign for Trump! Of course, you'd have to give up your "socialist" healthcare and all those other "leftist" "handouts." The Trump camp considers UHC nothing more than theft carried out by socialist snowflakes for socialist snowflakes.
Trump's "baffling popularity" is easily explainable. It comes from an era when white men earned the money, often in working-class jobs, and their white wives stayed at home, to raise the children. Their sons were taught to get an education beyond high school, and use that education to get a job; while their daughters, who might pursue a post-secondary education, were only in it to get an "Mrs." degree. The movie "Mona Lisa Smile" explores this question.
Things changed, during the 1970s and 1980s. No longer did you, white man, start in the mailroom, and work your way up to Vice-President after forty years at the same company. You white men do well at the company, and you get promoted? Nope, not necessarily. Now, Blacks and women could be promoted over you. Further, they could be hired for jobs that did not start in the mailroom. Women especially, did not attend post-secondary institutions to get a "Mrs." degree; they attended to get an education that would take them beyond traditional female job roles.
Trump's "baffling popularity" is easily explainable. It's a wish for a return to the 1950s, when white men made the money, their white wives were in the kitchen, their white children were the only kids you ever saw in the media; and single women, blacks, gays, lesbians, and immigrants; and the challenges they faced, were never heard about. That's the world that Trump supporters want--but it's not the world that any of us live in any more.
I think it's actually simpler than all that. It's not a wish to be in the 50's, but more of a last grasp for power.
"Old white men" see the writing is on the wall, and eight years of Obama more than proved it. Demographics are changing, voters are getting younger and off white. Texas will flip to be more like California in my lifetime. Florida would be there if not for net internal immigration.
People are scared that once all of "those people" get in power, they'll get treated like they have been treating them for 200 years. Those power brokers are using the fear of change to stoke low information voters into supporting them, even when it runs contrary to their own best interests.
I think it's actually simpler than all that. It's not a wish to be in the 50's, but more of a last grasp for power.
"Old white men" see the writing is on the wall, and eight years of Obama more than proved it. Demographics are changing, voters are getting younger and off white. Texas will flip to be more like California in my lifetime. Florida would be there if not for net internal immigration.
People are scared that once all of "those people" get in power, they'll get treated like they have been treating them for 200 years. Those power brokers are using the fear of change to stoke low information voters into supporting them, even when it runs contrary to their own best interests.
I have to say that as ignoble as Trumpism is, a lot of the casual dismissiveness about its causes is what make it that much more difficult to defeat.
I have to say that as ignoble as Trumpism is, a lot of the casual dismissiveness about its causes is what make it that much more difficult to defeat.
The challenge is that it is completely morally bankrupt in its pursuit of power. Find a fear button, push it until people come your way. Lies don't matter, you just accuse the accuser of persecution and keep lying.
The only way to defeat it is let it run its course, or cause more fear than the instigator. It's an absolute race to a moral bottom.
Look at the last four years. The absolute lies coming out of the White House are staggering, as is the audacity to keep repeating them and fighting even when you know you're wrong and demonizing the media. When Nixon was around the Washington Post brought him down. Now you have large portions of the country thinking the media spread false narratives and that the pillars of law enforcement in the FBI and Department of Justice have grudges and are fomenting treason.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
or at least explainable to some degree) certainly isn't born out of mostly laudable intentions, but to place all the blame on that seems awfully simplistic.
