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Old 02-01-2022, 11:12 AM
 
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There is a record surge in fatalities due to car accidents. In the first nine months of 2021, there were 31,000 fatalities. It represented a 12% increase from the year before. We can also extrapolate from this that serious injuries probably increased at about the same rate.

This is why your car insurance rates are going up. Want them to go down? Drive more safely.


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Old 02-02-2022, 05:26 PM
 
Location: MD's Eastern Shore
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How about compared to 2019?

This is why statistics and percentages can be manipulated to "prove" whatever it is one is pushing for.

Remember from March through a good part of the summer in 2020 there was the main Covid scare that kept a large number of people off the roads. So it doesn't take rocket science to see that as more people started to return to normal lives in2021, and the roads started being used by many again that there would be more accidents. Therefore, more fatalities!
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Old 02-02-2022, 05:38 PM
 
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How about compared to 2019?

This is why statistics and percentages can be manipulated to "prove" whatever it is one is pushing for.

Remember from March through a good part of the summer in 2020 there was the main Covid scare that kept a large number of people off the roads. So it doesn't take rocket science to see that as more people started to return to normal lives in2021, and the roads started being used by many again that there would be more accidents. Therefore, more fatalities!
Well above 2019.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases...hs%20of%202020.

Since you likely don’t trust actual stats. Here’s the words:

NHTSA projects that an estimated 31,720 people died in motor vehicle traffic crashes from January through September 2021, an increase of approximately 12% from the 28,325 fatalities projected for the first nine months of 2020. The projection is the highest number of fatalities during the first nine months of any year since 2006 and the highest percentage increase during the first nine months in the Fatality Analysis Reporting System’s history.
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Old 02-03-2022, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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of course the percentage would be higher compared to 2020 as those were non existent. I would think you base it on the number versus the percentage. Percentages to me have always been flawed
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Old 02-03-2022, 03:40 PM
 
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of course the percentage would be higher compared to 2020 as those were non existent. I would think you base it on the number versus the percentage. Percentages to me have always been flawed
Auto fatalities were roughly 36,000 in 2019 (before coronavirus).

Auto fatalities were roughly 38,000 in 2020 (with coronavirus).

Auto fatalities for the first nine months of 2021 increased 12% over 2020.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_...n_U.S._by_year

I'm not sure if you were trying to say that auto fatalities went down in 2020 because of Covid 19. They didn't.
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Old 02-03-2022, 03:42 PM
 
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Default Someone needs a statistics refresher.

What matters is the rate of fatalities per 100,000 miles driven (or whatever interval is selected), not the actual numbers. Of course, people were not driving much in 2020, compared to 2021 and this year, so it would be really interesting if the fatalities DID NOT increase.
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Old 02-03-2022, 04:00 PM
 
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What matters is the rate of fatalities per 100,000 miles driven (or whatever interval is selected), not the actual numbers. Of course, people were not driving much in 2020, compared to 2021 and this year, so it would be really interesting if the fatalities DID NOT increase.
Please read the link I posted. Fatalities are at a high not seen since 2006 - on a miles driven metric, they’re higher than ever.
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Old 02-03-2022, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Auto fatalities were roughly 36,000 in 2019 (before coronavirus).

Auto fatalities were roughly 38,000 in 2020 (with coronavirus).

Auto fatalities for the first nine months of 2021 increased 12% over 2020.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_...n_U.S._by_year

I'm not sure if you were trying to say that auto fatalities went down in 2020 because of Covid 19. They didn't.

I am not saying either.. I am saying to not use percentages.. use numbers.. that shows the true increase/decrease
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Old 02-03-2022, 07:03 PM
 
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I am not saying either.. I am saying to not use percentages.. use numbers.. that shows the true increase/decrease
Read. The. Link.

On every metric they went up. Hell - you and I both know TX has a scoreboard up on the highways.

The fact that you can’t manage the math of understanding that they measured the true number of increase as a relative percentage is staggering.

The number is 12% higher than the baseline number that was directly posted and quoted. How hard is that to understand the scope of?

And to cap all of that off. THE ACTUAL NUMBERS WERE RIGHT THERE FOR THE FIRST NINE MONTHS OF 2021 v 2020.

31,000 is greater than 28,000 can you comprehend that?
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Old 02-04-2022, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Read. The. Link.

On every metric they went up. Hell - you and I both know TX has a scoreboard up on the highways.

The fact that you can’t manage the math of understanding that they measured the true number of increase as a relative percentage is staggering.

The number is 12% higher than the baseline number that was directly posted and quoted. How hard is that to understand the scope of?

And to cap all of that off. THE ACTUAL NUMBERS WERE RIGHT THERE FOR THE FIRST NINE MONTHS OF 2021 v 2020.

31,000 is greater than 28,000 can you comprehend that?
Not sure what got your panties in a wad. Not saying it isnt getting worse.. what I merely said is to use strictly numbers. Percentages are crap most of the time.
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