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"Copy and pasting different definitions and Global companies names does not really back up knowledge or smarts." - spoolup
No, it does not . But what it does do, is provide relevant information, with a source, as it pertains to the topic of this thread.
"Sorry for the rant, but people who go and paste information that they don't understand and then try to push their opinion around REALLY pi$$ me off." - spoolup
When you form an strong argument, especially in threads that require you to compare, what you said ^ above, is the key ingredrient to forming a strong argument. However, the exception in what you said was, "they don't understand".
When forming a strong argument, some of the things you'll need:
1. Claim - Your opinion, or conclusion, which must be supported by evidence within your argument.
2. Grounds - Evidence, or any information that will support your claim.
3. Warrant - Connects, or relates the grounds to the claim.
^ If doing that ^, pi$$ you off, please don't start an argument
"Even if AT&T was bigger...NOT FOR LONG !!!" - Lancet71
Even if Verizon was bigger...NOT FOR LONG!!!
AT&T and T-Mobile, Combined!
"In a blockbuster mobile deal, AT&T announced today it had agreed to acquire T-Mobile USA from Deutsche Telekom for $39 billion.
The acquisition would make AT&T the dominant wireless player in the U.S. with the addition of more than 33 million subscribers to its 95.5 million customer user base, giving it a new total of more than 129 million subscribers. The merger would push AT&T past Verizon Wireless, which would become the U.S. second largest wireless carrier with a little more than 102 million subscribers."
"In an effort to make owning a Ford Focus Electric as simple as possible, FoMoCo announced that it is teaming up with AT&T to connect the Focus Electric to a wireless network. The connection will allow owners to control vehicle settings when away from the car.
“Through the new MyFord Mobile smartphone app, using the embedded AT&T wireless connection, Ford Focus Electric vehicle owners will have the ability to send and receive data about their car providing command and control of vehicle settings while away from it,” Ford said."
<LI itxtHarvested="1" itxtNodeId="141">Find current and projected state of charge information including estimated range and the amount of charge time necessary for additional distances<LI itxtHarvested="1" itxtNodeId="140">Program vehicle charging with utility input, allowing the car to start charging immediately or when electricity prices are lowest with the value charging feature, powered by Microsoft<LI itxtHarvested="1" itxtNodeId="139">Features powered by MapQuest available on the MyFord smartphone app:
Locate charging stations and get the destination sent to the vehicle
Know if the vehicle can reach a specific charge station from its current location with the current charge level
Create a journey with multiple stops, and determine the likelihood that the car has adequate charge for the full journey
Find the car by creating a route from a mobile phone to the vehicle
<LI itxtHarvested="1" itxtNodeId="138">Receive alerts if the vehicle isn’t charging when it’s scheduled to, or if charging stops unexpectedly due to a power outage, plug removal or other event<LI itxtHarvested="1" itxtNodeId="137">Receive alerts during recharge when the vehicle has reached a particular preset charge level or has the ability to reach a particular destination<LI itxtHarvested="1" itxtNodeId="136">Engage remote vehicle preconditioning, using grid power to heat or cool the vehicle interior<LI itxtHarvested="1" itxtNodeId="135">Remotely lock/unlock doors<LI itxtHarvested="1" itxtNodeId="134">Use the built-in GPS system to locate the car<LI itxtHarvested="1" itxtNodeId="133">Download performance and system data<LI itxtHarvested="1" itxtNodeId="132">Fun ways of understanding your driver behavior, with ratings from ‘Zen’ to ‘Zippy’<LI itxtHarvested="1" itxtNodeId="131">Receive information personalized to the driver, depending on which key the driver used Ford joins forces with AT&T to wirelessly connect Focus Electric - egmCarTech
"Even if AT&T was bigger...NOT FOR LONG !!!" - Lancet71
Even if Verizon was bigger...NOT FOR LONG!!!
AT&T and T-Mobile, Combined!
[LEFT]"In a blockbuster mobile deal, AT&T announced today it had agreed to acquire T-Mobile USA from Deutsche Telekom for $39 billion.
The acquisition would make AT&T the dominant wireless player in the U.S. with the addition of more than 33 million subscribers to its 95.5 million customer user base, giving it a new total of more than 129 million subscribers. The merger would push AT&T past Verizon Wireless, which would become the U.S. second largest wireless carrier with a little more than 102 million subscribers."
T-Mobiles coverage is the worst out of the Big 4 and even if they combine with AT&T, their coverage is still less than Verizon and Sprint. Also AT&T and T-Mobile subscribers will bail. T-Mobile customers will see an increase in rates eventually and people flat out hate AT&T. So even though they will have the most subscribers, that will drop off.
Now that VZW has the IPHONE, there is no way people stay. Lots of people ONLY went to AT&T for the Iphone but dealt with their horrible customer service. Now they don't have to anymore.
Stephen,
We all know you work for AT&T but everyone sees through the propoganda.
"Also AT&T and T-Mobile subscribers will bail. T-Mobile customers will see an increase in rates eventually and people flat out hate AT&T. So even though they will have the most subscribers, that will drop off. " - Lancet71
That's debatable. Here's three reasons why.
T-Mobile, being a much smaller carrier,doesn't get as many exclusives on top-line phones, and it doesn't have the iPhone. On the other hand, AT&T is the industry leader in smartphones and integrated devices. With AT&T, T-Mobile customers will have more choices and gain access to the industry leading smartphone line-up.
In the last 10 years, there were 27 mergers/buyouts. However, wireless service prices continued to decline, by 50%.
"The competitiveness of the market has directly benefited consumers. A 2010 report from the US General Accounting Office (GAO) states the overall average price (adjusted for inflation) for wireless services declined 50 percent from 1999 to 2009, during a period which saw five major wireless mergers."
"Now that VZW has the IPHONE, there is no way people stay" - Lancet71
That's debatable too.
* AT&T iPhone 4 is twice as fast as the Verizon iPhone 4.
"download speeds through AT&T reached a maximum of 3.57 Mbps versus a maximum of 1.32 Mbps on Verizon. The margin for uploads was similar, with AT&T’s upload speed reaching 1.39 Mbps vs a peak of 0.54 MBps uploading through Verizon"
* AT&T iPhone 4 can use voice and data simultaneously, Verizon's iPhone 4 can not. * AT&T iPhone 4 can make conference calls with up to 5 people, Verizon's iPhone 4 can only handle 2. * Verizon's iPhone 4 is unable to add, swap, or merge calls on hold.
I have been a customer of both Verizon and At&t, currently At&t. I would describe neither as the best. To be fair, I wouldn't describe ANY cell phone company as being all that great.
Until long term contracts and phones being stuck on individual cell phone company systems go away and the barriers to entering the business stay as high as they are, the prices will stay high, there will be be service holes and crummy customer service.
I disagree. I have used Verizon custmer service several times and have nothing but good to say about how they were handled. They and discover card customer service have been the best I have dealt with.
Notice that the Verizon version beats out the AT&T in nearly every test! These tests are also in "real world" setups, like a parking garage, a busy downtown financial area, and residential spots.
Quote-"Whatever way AT&T Inc. spins it, the mobile giant’s plans to merge with T-Mobile USA in a deal worth $39 billion may be a win-win for shareholders if it goes through, but it will likely be a lose-lose for consumers. It will almost certainly result in less choice of mobile packages for customers and – given a respectable amount of time – higher prices too."
Quote-"...merging AT&T and T-Mobile would reduce competition further, creating a wireless behemoth with more than 125 million customers and nudging the existing oligopoly closer to a duopoly. The new company would have more customers than Verizon, and three times as many as Sprint Nextel. It would control about 42 percent of the U.S. cell-phone market.
That means higher prices, full stop. The proposed deal is, in finance-speak, a "horizontal acquisition." AT&T is not attempting to buy a company that makes software or runs network improvements or streamlines back-end systems. AT&T is buying a company that has the broadband it needs and cutting out a competitor to boot—a competitor that had, of late, pushed hard to compete on price. Perhaps it's telling that AT&T has made no indications as of yet that it will keep T-Mobile's lower rates."
Quote-"Fewer companies means less competition. And despite what AT&T wants you to believe, this always results in higher prices for customers. By swallowing T-Mobile USA, AT&T has killed off a fierce rival — one that has consistently offered better value plans that AT&T couldn’t bend far enough down to hand out. It’s possible that AT&T could hang on to T-Mobile’s budget offerings to keep a hold on the lower-end market, but don’t count on it. T-Mobile is in the no-mans-land area of wireless. One step up from Boost Mobile and Cricket Wireless, but considered a challenger brand when compared to the big three – AT&T, Verizon and Sprint."
Enough links and quotes for you?? This deal is a BAD deal for T-Mobile customers. Here in S. Texas, there are ALOT of complaints about AT&T's lousy coverage. T-Mobile's was even worse. I just left T-Mobile, and went to Verizon, and have the iPhone 4 now. SOOO much better than the constant dropped calls I was getting, the EDGE network just about everywhere (now have constant 3G with speeds averaging at about 2.8mbits).
The thing is, Stephen, you can sensationalize all you want about AT&T... the bottom dollar is, that AT&T has dragged its feet at getting up to snuff with the rest of the carriers on its innovation and customer service. I do hope they can do something with this merger, and expand their network like they promised (oh, so many promises!!). I am, for one, not going back on the GSM bandwagon, though!
Notice that the Verizon version beats out the AT&T in nearly every test! These tests are also in "real world" setups, like a parking garage, a busy downtown financial area, and residential spots.
Quote-"Whatever way AT&T Inc. spins it, the mobile giant’s plans to merge with T-Mobile USA in a deal worth $39 billion may be a win-win for shareholders if it goes through, but it will likely be a lose-lose for consumers. It will almost certainly result in less choice of mobile packages for customers and – given a respectable amount of time – higher prices too."
Quote-"...merging AT&T and T-Mobile would reduce competition further, creating a wireless behemoth with more than 125 million customers and nudging the existing oligopoly closer to a duopoly. The new company would have more customers than Verizon, and three times as many as Sprint Nextel. It would control about 42 percent of the U.S. cell-phone market.
That means higher prices, full stop. The proposed deal is, in finance-speak, a "horizontal acquisition." AT&T is not attempting to buy a company that makes software or runs network improvements or streamlines back-end systems. AT&T is buying a company that has the broadband it needs and cutting out a competitor to boot—a competitor that had, of late, pushed hard to compete on price. Perhaps it's telling that AT&T has made no indications as of yet that it will keep T-Mobile's lower rates."
Quote-"Fewer companies means less competition. And despite what AT&T wants you to believe, this always results in higher prices for customers. By swallowing T-Mobile USA, AT&T has killed off a fierce rival — one that has consistently offered better value plans that AT&T couldn’t bend far enough down to hand out. It’s possible that AT&T could hang on to T-Mobile’s budget offerings to keep a hold on the lower-end market, but don’t count on it. T-Mobile is in the no-mans-land area of wireless. One step up from Boost Mobile and Cricket Wireless, but considered a challenger brand when compared to the big three – AT&T, Verizon and Sprint."
Enough links and quotes for you?? This deal is a BAD deal for T-Mobile customers. Here in S. Texas, there are ALOT of complaints about AT&T's lousy coverage. T-Mobile's was even worse. I just left T-Mobile, and went to Verizon, and have the iPhone 4 now. SOOO much better than the constant dropped calls I was getting, the EDGE network just about everywhere (now have constant 3G with speeds averaging at about 2.8mbits).
The thing is, Stephen, you can sensationalize all you want about AT&T... the bottom dollar is, that AT&T has dragged its feet at getting up to snuff with the rest of the carriers on its innovation and customer service. I do hope they can do something with this merger, and expand their network like they promised (oh, so many promises!!). I am, for one, not going back on the GSM bandwagon, though!
Ian
Stephen works for AT&T and will spew all the AT&T propoganda (not facts). My mother in law has T-Mobile and she is afraid too. T-Mobile was a budget priced carrier and eventually that will end now due to the merger. If Sprint keeps losing customers don't be surprised if you see them merge with Verizon. Then what? Verizon and AT&T as the only 2 major carriers? The fact that there were choices kept prices down. It's kind of like when you see one gas station next to another with the same price. They can charge as much as they want as long as they're the same. If you look now, Verizon and AT&T are almost identical in price. The difference is the coverage and that Verizon's customer service is well liked while AT&T's is not. Even if Verizon didn't have the IPhone, people still wanted out from AT&T but now there is one less reason to stay.
I know that people will disagree with this, but coverage for the big four U.S. providers (Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint) is basically the same. The only difference is that some providers offer service in extremely remote locations that, let's be 100% honest with ourselves, you are not going to be found in. Ever. And, a good portion of the coverage maps includes roaming. So, keep that in mind.
So with that, it is not really the providers that offer a "better" service, but it is the particular phone you use. An individual phone's antenna is what is going to determine call quality, number of dropped calls, and coverage.
With that, I dislike both Verizon and AT&T.
That is mostly true.
I have worked for different cell phone carriers and they have the same service for the most part.
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