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Old 01-04-2017, 04:30 PM
 
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Well, I mean they are adding an entire new road and interchange to said new road to get to Cane Bay.
They are adding it because of traffic. That light gets really backed up in the am sometimes because of the amount of people dtay out there taking a 1lane road to 17.


The us thing is dont overbuild. That goes especially with roads. Right now i26 should be atleast 6 lanes from Columbia to summerville and 8 lanes from summerville to charleston. Why?? Because you are thinking about the future. But now days they are so many anti/conservative groups and so much paper work needed to get a road started alot its crazy. Let the city build roads.
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Old 01-04-2017, 05:25 PM
 
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They are adding it because of traffic. That light gets really backed up in the am sometimes because of the amount of people dtay out there taking a 1lane road to 17.


The us thing is dont overbuild. That goes especially with roads. Right now i26 should be atleast 6 lanes from Columbia to summerville and 8 lanes from summerville to charleston. Why?? Because you are thinking about the future. But now days they are so many anti/conservative groups and so much paper work needed to get a road started alot its crazy. Let the city build roads.
I agree. Rather have the roads first then the stuff.
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Old 01-05-2017, 04:28 AM
 
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You mean the contractors busy building on John's Island? Yea I don't see a lack of an interstate slowing them down much at all. But hey, believe what you want... time will determine how right or wrong you are. Arguing on the internet doesn't seem to change it.
ANY contractor will tell you that highways into the suburbs give them many more opportunities to build subdivisions that will sell more easily and for more money.
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Old 01-05-2017, 04:30 AM
 
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And do you mean all the contractors building at cane bay in the middle of nowhere???
Yeah, ask those, they will tell you the same thing.
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Old 01-05-2017, 04:32 AM
 
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Well, I mean they are adding an entire new road and interchange to said new road to get to Cane Bay.
And new homes will be more appealing, sell for more money and sell quicker because of it.
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Old 01-06-2017, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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They are adding it because of traffic. That light gets really backed up in the am sometimes because of the amount of people dtay out there taking a 1lane road to 17.


The us thing is dont overbuild. That goes especially with roads. Right now i26 should be atleast 6 lanes from Columbia to summerville and 8 lanes from summerville to charleston. Why?? Because you are thinking about the future. But now days they are so many anti/conservative groups and so much paper work needed to get a road started alot its crazy. Let the city build roads.
I wouldn't necessarily blame conservative groups. When I lived in the PNW it was usually the Sierra Club and whoever didn't want their view of Lake Washington to change. Make 405/520/90 wider, abandoned rail to bike trail, or mass transit over the lake? NOPE! Paperwork was mostly environmental and legal studies that would consume the entire project's budget with nothing to show for it.

Personally I blame a lack of foresight or planning for a future that is virtually guaranteed to happen. Some people just don't like roads, or believe that they lead to additional development despite numerous examples to the contrary cited. There's a Society Against Absolutely Everything pretty much anywhere you go. Some might say you only have to look up one post from this one.
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Old 01-06-2017, 07:06 AM
 
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You are right though. It seems to me that cities like to bring in all the permit money from developments but don't want to spend it on roads and necessary infrastructure. It's purely selfish that they can keep the money and get more salaries but if they really cared then they would plan for the future needs 20 years down the road and not just knee jerk it.
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Old 01-06-2017, 07:21 AM
 
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ANY contractor will tell you that highways into the suburbs give them many more opportunities to build subdivisions that will sell more easily and for more money.
Perhaps, but you're still ignoring the issue. With or without the interstate, two things will happen on John's Island:
  • Growth will continue at an explosive rate
  • More local roads will be built to handle the traffic

Simply put, if your plan is by stopping 526 it's going to stop or significantly slow down development, I believe you're setting yourself up for disappointment. The growth is happening now without the interstate, and it's just going to continue. If you want to slow growth, you need to use zoning and learn from MtP mistakes. If they had been more restrictive with their zoning, placed moratoriums earlier, they wouldn't be in a situation trying to get all the cats back in the corral. However, the price of that is a increase in taxes and housing cost as the demand doesn't go away and the infrastructure isn't being financed by new development.
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Old 01-06-2017, 09:13 AM
 
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Charleston is in a unique situation in terms of growth. The area is booming farther out, some close in areas are redeveloping and some areas that could be convenient hold no allure or are not close to jobs or recreation. The biggest problems are that costs of some nicer areas remove them from consideration for most residents and the desire for nicer or even simply affordable housing is pushing people into undeveloped areas.


When you pair that with the fact that all the areas that make up the metro having major waterways or wetlands to cross you get into a bigger problem. Bridges and even roads with excessive grading/pilings/etc are very costly compared to typical road construction. And once built they are all but impossible to alter.


That said- whether you build roads onto Johns Island or not, it is still going to attract people who do not want to drive to the far side of Summerville for comparative prices, house shop during non-rush hour traffic or those who simply need to get their budget lower than comparable places in James Island/West Ashley. Prices would go up with a better road system but the lack of it will not stop construction. Look how far up 17 people are willing to move in Mt Pleasant. Or folks who continue to live in the outer stretches of 61. Traffic might be affecting prices but it is not killing construction in the least.
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Old 01-06-2017, 09:50 AM
 
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And with more poeple living farther out that is whats making traffic bad because so many people have to travek into north charleston or charleston. Look at bees ferry. That shouldnt be that amount of aprts/houses in the middle of nowhere. Clements ferry is the same way but that road is to the point now that everybody want it widdening.
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