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Old 01-26-2021, 06:45 AM
 
Location: South of Cakalaki
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We all know about Ansonborough, Radcliffeborough, etc, but by the NYC model they are parallel with the neighborhoods of Manhattan. Ansonborough is to the Charleston peninsula as SoHo is to Manhattan. The part of West Ashley that is in the the city of Charleston is to the city of Charleston as the borough of Brooklyn is to NYC, only West Ashley is not actually a borough in the governmental-political sense. But it’s certainly more than a neighborhood. Ansonborough is not actually a borough in the governmental-political sense, and it is only a neighborhood, albeit with a neighborhood association, I assume.
I'm not sure why you are so wrapped up in the NY definition or Merriam Webster. Since we're on the Charleston sub-fora, why don't we use the Charleston definition?
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Old 01-26-2021, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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I'm not sure why you are so wrapped up in the NY definition or Merriam Webster. Since we're on the Charleston sub-fora, why don't we use the Charleston definition?
Ansonborough and the other neighborhoods in Charleston with ‘borough’ as part of their name by today’s standard are just that: neighborhoods.
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Old 01-26-2021, 09:57 AM
 
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Ansonborough and the other neighborhoods in Charleston with ‘borough’ as part of their name by today’s standard are just that: neighborhoods.
That's understood, but referring to those historic neighborhoods as "boroughs" is obviously convenient shorthand. Nobody should get worked up over that.
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Old 01-26-2021, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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That's understood, but referring to those historic neighborhoods as "boroughs" is obviously convenient shorthand. Nobody should get worked up over that.
I agree. By the same token no one should get worked over the explanation of the difference between a true borough and a neighborhood.
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Old 01-26-2021, 06:57 PM
 
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I agree. By the same token no one should get worked over the explanation of the difference between a true borough and a neighborhood.
It’s a Charleston thing. I guess you just don’t get it.

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Old 01-26-2021, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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It’s a Charleston thing. I guess you just don’t get it.
I do get it. Maybe someday we’ll have true boroughs here.

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What defines a borough?
1 : a town, village, or part of a large city that has its own government. 2 : one of the five political divisions of New York City
- Miriam Webster
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Old 01-27-2021, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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I don't really see Ansonborough as requiring it's own government. Frankly if Charleston ever got that big, I'm leaving for St. Thomas.
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Old 01-27-2021, 06:08 AM
 
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I do get it. Maybe someday we’ll have true boroughs here.

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What defines a borough?
1 : a town, village, or part of a large city that has its own government. 2 : one of the five political divisions of New York City
- Miriam Webster
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Old 01-27-2021, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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I don't really see Ansonborough as requiring it's own government. Frankly if Charleston ever got that big, I'm leaving for St. Thomas.
I’m not saying that. If Charleston ever went to the borough system, the boroughs would have their own councils, but I don’t mean the Ansonboroughs and Radcliffeboroughs. Those are neighborhoods, not true boroughs.
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Old 01-27-2021, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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I’m not saying that. If Charleston ever went to the borough system, the boroughs would have their own councils, but I don’t mean the Ansonboroughs and Radcliffeboroughs. Those are neighborhoods, not true boroughs.
I don't really consider them neighborhoods. Not in the traditional sense of what a neighborhood is. Because of the historical nature of the boroughs, it's hard to put them into a certain category except geographic location of a part of Charleston. Something like that.

To me it's almost just a descriptive part of Charleston. It would be the same as saying "it's down by the wharf, or it's near the market" something like that. "It's over in Ansonborough."
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