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Old 01-16-2012, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Matthews, NC
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There has been reports of that happening but the proof is simply not there. Why rob a place and hope on a train where you can easily be caught. I guess mooresville didn't hear of the real estate boom happening in southend right now.
I don't believe it either, I was kind of being sarcastic.

I thought the Red Line was going all the way to Statesville so Mooresville wouldn't be the end. The same kind of situation happened in NOVA. Metro wanted to make a line all the way from DC out to Dulles airport but the town of Herndon didn't want to play ball. Not sure if it ever got resolved but it was definitely about them not wanting to put money into it.
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:31 AM
 
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The state and CATS would fund 50 percent of the line total, then Charlotte and the towns, as well as Meck and Iredell county, would fund the rest through TIF and special assessments.

BTW, there is a huge shopping center right at the end of the blue line (Carolina Pavilion), which has seen a lot of growth since the line moved in. I think downtown Pineville would have been much better off for the line.
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:35 AM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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probably a combo - may even include federal funds - good question and I would be interested in seeing all that info.
Well, if Statesville wants it, they could run through Mooresville with no stop in Mooresville.

If they want to kill it, there's always Gastonia. Gastonia wanted to do light rail but Charlotte didn't want to, so Gastonia came up with the diesel option that has been approved by the state, & will eventually come to Kings Mountain & beyond.
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:36 AM
 
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I dont blame them, kinda same way Pineville felt, when your at the end of line you dont get much benefit.
Look at the end of the Blue Line there isnt really any development at end of the line. As matter of fact restaurants have closed near the end of the line, like BBQ restaurant and that steak house.
At the end of line people hop in there cars and go home. There is no where to go reasonably by foot at the end of the line except a Steak & Shake.
The "end of line right now is in uptown... I'd wager they've seen plenty of benefit. But every time the line expands the "end" will move.

I'm sure Mooresville would have to pony up some serious cash, but there are two pretty sure bets here:
1. It will never get cheaper
2. There will be rail/corridor based mass transit at some point that someone will pay for.
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Old 01-16-2012, 12:20 PM
 
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It's amazing how this is set up to allow Iredell to undo the whole deal, especially since Huntersville, Davidson and Cornelius want it. Especially since the objections you hear from the Iredell commissioners are pap answers that totally ignore the experience of the south line.
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Old 01-16-2012, 12:44 PM
 
Location: The 12th State
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Why dont they just have it end in Davidson. That is what happen to express bus service when 83x was discontinued due to low ridership of daily average 59 passengers to Mooresville.
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Old 01-16-2012, 01:18 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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Why dont they just have it end in Davidson. That is what happen to express bus service when 83x was discontinued due to low ridership of daily average 59 passengers to Mooresville.
My thoughts, too. Maybe the real truth is . . . the other towns were fine with it as long as it ended "somewhere else." Just sayin' . . .
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Old 01-16-2012, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman area
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Maybe Mooresville is worried about all the crime that a light rail will bring to their town. There was some article a while back that claimed a restaurant had to shut down due to criminals riding the light rail to their area and breaking into cars.
The thing is that it was only going to Mt. Mourne which is a few miles south of their town center. I don't think that criminals would want to get off at Mt. Mourne.
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Old 01-16-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman area
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How much $$$ did it require that the city of Mooresville ante up (if any). In my experience, these types of decisions usually come down to dollars and cents, wh/ could also include the cost of buying property or securing rights-of-ways, moving buildings, etc. I am just throwing that out. I have not read anything in re: to what the city fathers in Mooresville were concerned about. That would be interesting to know, tho.
The Red Line is (was) the cheapest of the proposed projects since the rail line is in place just needing some upgrading.
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Old 01-16-2012, 02:01 PM
 
Location: State of Being
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The Red Line is (was) the cheapest of the proposed projects since the rail line is in place just needing some upgrading.
Yes, I am pretty ignorant about the project. I have looked the info up in the past (in fact, you may have given me some links in the past, lol - how quickly I forget!).

That would seem to be the most viable (and cost-effective) way to pursue such a project - existing rails.

It would be very interesting to find out what the reasons are for not going ahead with the project, especially if there are reasons other than just the $$$. I have a feeling, some outlying communities just don't want to be that connected to Charlotte, meaning - feeling they will lose control over their own jurisdictions and possibly - losing revenue to folks who will use the rail to go back into Charlotte to shop. I know that sounds nutty but I have heard folks say things like that.

I know it really sounds nuts to you, Stella, since you have spent so much time (and have lived) in Europe.
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