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Old 10-25-2014, 02:37 PM
 
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It appears the guys are closing up shop and will not be completing the 485 outer loop this year because the harsh North Carolina winter is upon us.

Has anyone here ever seen these guys work nights and weekends during the summer? Honestly, I haven't seen much work going on during the day. There are a lot of quality things about North Carolina but let me tell you, this is just some typical backwoods BS nonsense. Excuse after excuse and this type of dealings always seems to permeate right underneath the surface in all aspects of politics and business here in NC. How about we build a trolly to nowhere in downtown Charlotte while we are at it.

Completion of I-485 outer loop delayed

We are going on 10 years of 485 construction!!! LOL...seriously?
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Old 10-25-2014, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Eh, its the northeast section. If it was the southern section widening that would be more of a problem for me.
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Old 10-25-2014, 03:55 PM
 
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I thought this was pretty funny as well. While I get that you can't lay asphalt if the temps are below 50, to say we aren't going to do it because it "might" be too cold? Um what happens if it is a warmer than normal November and the daytime temps are above 50? And besides that, if this is because of the "impending" winter, then why was a December date even set? It's not like someone changed the calendar around and now all of sudden winter is coming.
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Old 10-25-2014, 08:05 PM
 
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Between this and the Rea road construction, I've just about had it. I suppose there are worse problems in the world that people are dealing with, so I'll shut up.
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Old 10-26-2014, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Charlotte Metro Area
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I thought this was pretty funny as well. While I get that you can't lay asphalt if the temps are below 50, to say we aren't going to do it because it "might" be too cold? Um what happens if it is a warmer than normal November and the daytime temps are above 50? And besides that, if this is because of the "impending" winter, then why was a December date even set? It's not like someone changed the calendar around and now all of sudden winter is coming.
I ran into this a couple of years ago with an asphalt project. The problem is that once we get to this time of year, the asphalt plants drastically cut production because they know that it won't set correctly if the temperature drops below 50 overnight, so there's no call for it.

So there's a matter of supply at this point. I'd rather that they wait now instead of having to re-lay poor asphalt in a year at taxpayers' expense.
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Old 10-26-2014, 01:28 AM
 
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^The issue isn't the technical aspects of laying roadwork.

The issue is the the fact that an experienced contractor to the state of NC apparently didn't take normal seasonal weather into when developing a schedule to build the road. In other words, it's a poor "excuse" for not managing their schedule as committed to the state and taxpayers.

Of course the idiot reporters on TV these days simply parrot this nonsense as fact and don't question it at all.
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Old 10-26-2014, 06:00 AM
 
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if this is because of the "impending" winter, then why was a December date even set? It's not like someone changed the calendar around and now all of sudden winter is coming.
THIS

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The issue is the the fact that an experienced contractor to the state of NC apparently didn't take normal seasonal weather into when developing a schedule to build the road. In other words, it's a poor "excuse" for not managing their schedule as committed to the state and taxpayers.

Of course the idiot reporters on TV these days simply parrot this nonsense as fact and don't question it at all.
Yeah it mentioned in the article in the OP that if it gets delayed again the construction company could face fines, but that for now they've been granted an extension (and this delay will most likely cost taxpayers). Which leads me to believe that even if it does get delayed again they'd just give them an extension again...
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Old 10-26-2014, 10:07 AM
 
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The contractor is not putting down asphalt. The contractor is putting down concrete, despite what Channel 36, NBC in Charlotte is reporting. If they looked at their video, they would see concrete.

From my travels *north* of the Mason-Dixon line bi-weekly for 7 years, construction on major projects wind down pretty quickly around the 1st of October. I cite the D.C., VA, MD beltway as a prime example. The contractors do not put down concrete once the temperature reaches a certain point.

Unless we are ready to see a major overhaul of the new road once it is down, we need to stand down on decisions made in our (taxpayer's) best interest.

AND, thank you for your service to your country.
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Old 10-26-2014, 10:16 AM
 
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^The issue isn't the technical aspects of laying roadwork.

The issue is the the fact that an experienced contractor to the state of NC apparently didn't take normal seasonal weather into when developing a schedule to build the road. In other words, it's a poor "excuse" for not managing their schedule as committed to the state and taxpayers.

Of course the idiot reporters on TV these days simply parrot this nonsense as fact and don't question it at all.
THIS times infinity! What a joke
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Old 10-26-2014, 11:11 AM
 
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The contractor is not putting down asphalt. The contractor is putting down concrete, despite what Channel 36, NBC in Charlotte is reporting. If they looked at their video, they would see concrete.

From my travels *north* of the Mason-Dixon line bi-weekly for 7 years, construction on major projects wind down pretty quickly around the 1st of October. I cite the D.C., VA, MD beltway as a prime example. The contractors do not put down concrete once the temperature reaches a certain point.

Unless we are ready to see a major overhaul of the new road once it is down, we need to stand down on decisions made in our (taxpayer's) best interest.

AND, thank you for your service to your country.

NP -
I understood that the crews are shutting down operations for the winter (months). Why not continue work on other essential areas of the project? If all they have left is concrete why were they not working day and night to finish on schedule? And why is there no pushback from the politicians and public? I am just concerned because this toll road hypocracy on 77 seems to be going off without a hitch as well. Toll cost aside, how long will this take and what excuses will we have to deal with...77 is much more essential than 485.
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